Superduty P-pump 24v cummins build thread

I was about to ask if anyone had pictures of a 24v p-pump swap for a conversion until I was this thread pop up. I'm about an hours worth of work away to pull the 6 leaker, but i'm still missing parts on the cummins.

Mine didn't come with a lift pump, but I'm planning on using the stock ford pump.

Also don't have the vacuum/PS pump, so hopefully I can make up a mount to bolt up the ford PS pump.
 
Hawker said:
I was about to ask if anyone had pictures of a 24v p-pump swap for a conversion until I was this thread pop up. I'm about an hours worth of work away to pull the 6 leaker, but i'm still missing parts on the cummins.

Mine didn't come with a lift pump, but I'm planning on using the stock ford pump.

Also don't have the vacuum/PS pump, so hopefully I can make up a mount to bolt up the ford PS pump.
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I can't remember if a stock ford pump will support a p pump. Go raptor, Airdog, or fass.
 
I was told by DCS the 6.0 pump on the frame rail would be plenty. I think the p-pump requires around 42psi and the ford pump creates around 50 psi dynamic. I could be wrong, it'd be nice to know either way.
 
Hey guys sorry its taken me so long to post an update, I ended up getting real busy the last couple weeks and had to put this on hold but Im back at it and hope to have it done very soon! I do have some new pictures but I still need to upload them from my camera so Ill have them up tomorrow.

I got the whole fuel system finished, all powersteering return and cooler lines ran, just need to do the hydroboost line from the P/S pump. throttle linkage and gasser superduty pedal are in. Injection lines are on as well and I have my aluminum to make the spacer for the trans crossmember, just need to drill the holes and bolt it up. I just started in on the wiring tonight. Got the 6.0 harness stripped down and cut off everything I wont be needing and got all the wires Ill be needing labeled just have a little more left and then Ill tear into the cummins PCM harness tomorrow.

After screwing around with the 2nd gen exhaust manifold for a while I decided Im just gonna go with a 12v industrial manifold so if anyone knows where one might be let me know please!

Its getting closer but still got plenty of work left, and thanks everyone for the compliments, I appreciate it!


Drasko said:
any new updates? hows the swap going?
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Im back at it finally, I just wrote all the updates above to keep it easier to read

ChrisNickerson said:
That looks so sick, great job on a clean swap, keep the photos coming can't wait to see it done!
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Thanks!

cummin get it said:
I got a hotrodvp44 for sale right now on here asking 1000 shipped.

As to the OP bada$$ build I would love to own that truck. Fummins are bada$$
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Thanks man, this will be my 2nd fummins, but the first one I bought already swapped and there were way too many things that were half assed on that truck so Im making sure this one is done right.

04fummins said:
Matt,
Good looking truck. great looking build.

How are you going to get that 47RE to shift, are you going to use the computer from the donor or a stand alone? Manual shift kit?

The exhaust manifold- you can try flipping yours over and modding the waste gate or use a 3rd gen manifold or one from a medium duty cummins.
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Thank you!

Im gonna be using the PCM from the donor. I would have preferred to use a suncoast valve body and PCS but I just didnt have the money to go that route at the moment. Im gonna see how I like the shifting and everything with using the dodge PCM but Im gonna save up anyways for the PCS and suncoast VB for later on.

And yeah Im gonna use a 3rd gen style manifold cause otherwise Id have to cut the crap out of my heater box.

WUnderwood said:
sweet build! keep us updated.
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Thank you!
 
Diesel Conversion Specialists has the exhaust manifold. Brand new. I think I paid $190 or so when I bought all my parts.
 
I have a couple of them if you want a used one. Just PM me if you do. I also have a couple 24v industrial ones too.
 
Hawker said:
I was told by DCS the 6.0 pump on the frame rail would be plenty. I think the p-pump requires around 42psi and the ford pump creates around 50 psi dynamic. I could be wrong, it'd be nice to know either way.
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Just FYI. That is how I am running mine, just off the Ford pump. So far on the few test drives I have made it is working fine. when it dies I will replace it with a Homemade FASS.
 
04fummins said:
Just FYI. That is how I am running mine, just off the Ford pump. So far on the few test drives I have made it is working fine. when it dies I will replace it with a Homemade FASS.
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Out of curiosity what route did you go for controlling your 47re?
 
PSD0389 said:
Out of curiosity what route did you go for controlling your 47re?
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I put in a manual shift kit but the 47re is toast (bought it used for the adapter plate mostly, my motor came out of a Freightliner and had an sae #2 housing) so I am looking at getting a 47rh, it only has electronics for the O.D. and T.C. lock up, I will get a couple of hobbs switches to manage that.
 
04fummins said:
I put in a manual shift kit but the 47re is toast (bought it used for the adapter plate mostly, my motor came out of a Freightliner and had an sae #2 housing) so I am looking at getting a 47rh, it only has electronics for the O.D. and T.C. lock up, I will get a couple of hobbs switches to manage that.
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Ahhh I gotcha yeah an rh will be real easy to control. Im hoping the dodge PCM works out alright.

Also here are a couple pics, they arent completely up to date. Even though the picture doesnt show it, the fuel system is all done. Throttle linkage is ran into the cab, all powersteering return and cooler lines are ran. I just need to find a place that will make me a hydroboost line for less than 100 bucks.

Also instead of .084 mild steel injection lines I have .093 stainless lines on there instead. I hope to make a lot more progress this weekend.

I also started jumping into the wiring, the pictures show what the 6.0 harness looks like right now LOL

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On the hydraboost line, I added a flare to the ford line to go in the dodge pump. It worked pretty good. On the turbo fitment, have you tried flipping your exhaust manifold over and putting the turbo on top? That's how I did the 04 I did. It has an HX40 on it and just fits.
 
Matt,
The wire harness, make sure you keep the cam position sensor and the crank position sensor seperated if you are using the destroked tach kit. you need both hooked up to the kits sensor but if they are too close they will cross signals and make your tach and airconditioner act up. what is your plan for a getting a tach signal?
Are you going to run one battery or two? I only have the one on the driverside I cut the ford cable and turned it arround since the starter is now on the drivers side, another reason to stick with the 47re/rh saves room for the exhaust. also you might have a hard time with the tranny dipstick and the down pipe. I had to get a lockar flexable one from a dodge 727 tranny (IIRC) and machine it down to fit into the 47re dipstick hole.
 
DieselWrencher said:
On the hydraboost line, I added a flare to the ford line to go in the dodge pump. It worked pretty good. On the turbo fitment, have you tried flipping your exhaust manifold over and putting the turbo on top? That's how I did the 04 I did. It has an HX40 on it and just fits.
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I was kinda wondering if just a flare would work, thats the route Ill go then, thanks! Yeah I have tried the manifold both ways, it actually comes closer to fitting with it flipped up but the exhaust housing and wastegate still interfere with the heater box a good amount.

04fummins said:
Matt,
The wire harness, make sure you keep the cam position sensor and the crank position sensor seperated if you are using the destroked tach kit. you need both hooked up to the kits sensor but if they are too close they will cross signals and make your tach and airconditioner act up. what is your plan for a getting a tach signal?
Are you going to run one battery or two? I only have the one on the driverside I cut the ford cable and turned it arround since the starter is now on the drivers side, another reason to stick with the 47re/rh saves room for the exhaust. also you might have a hard time with the tranny dipstick and the down pipe. I had to get a lockar flexable one from a dodge 727 tranny (IIRC) and machine it down to fit into the 47re dipstick hole.
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Oh alright thats good to know I didnt realize I had to wire both sensors in, I do have a destroked tach kit that Im using. Ill definitley make sure they are seperated.

I have a battery tray already that will sit on the drivers side battery location so I can run two, I was hoping I could just modify the ford cables to work like you just mentioned.

And Im thinking Im gonna have to that route on the trans dipstick too because after looking at it I dont think that stock dipstick will fit at all.

Thanks for all the tips!
 
Does anyone have a picture of the p-pump on the block outside the truck? The kit I bought has some lines and brackets, but I can't reach the gut I bought it from for any instruction.
 
I got this right now. but I've also got a complete 12v sitting in my garage on the floor. what parts exactly do you need pics of? I'll be home in a week.

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