300' track or 150?

Steve, its no secret where the founders of the NADM worked before-everyone knows, sponsors, competitors, magazines, message boards. If it makes you feel better to keep saying it go right ahead.

The bottom line is, the talent left and moved on to grow Diesel Motorsports, which we are, and its coming along quite nicely no matter how much you and and a few more like yourself try to tear it part.

This was a fun little thread, and you want to twist it and use it to discredit an organization that is doing nothing but helping your business grow.
 
The three of you: this type of bickering is only counterproductive.

Gene was picking on the outlaw 10.5" radial guys who have gone 1/8th mile. And they seem to like it from what I read. But it's their party, not ours, so in the end who gives a crap unless you've got some skin in the game?

As for the sledpulling side, the purses are comparable to anything around here. We always want more, of course, but anyone who says NADM purses suck, is just wrong. For a one-shot deal I'm sure they could do more. But there's a big damn difference between a one-night-stand and a long term relationship. It's kinda obvious.
 
i just dont see how running 1/8 drag is goin to mean less broken parts most breaks are in the first 1/8 not at the far end of the track i like both sled pulling and drag racing and do both with my truck if i run 1/8 mile in my truck i would actually be more competitve i think since i have a manual
i sled pull because i have a manual if i had a auto i would drag hopefully i can fine a cheap 4wd 12v auto so i can do both they are both great sports
 
Sledpuller said:
I saw a thread that the drag racers want to run half track to save parts, you guys want to follow suit?
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Original quote, and no names, no events, no orgs.

Just a question.

Steve, Dennis, Darren shame on all three of you.
 
There's a brush pull that I used to go to when I was pulling..

The track length? 140 feet....

At 150 feet? A very large dirt pile.

Honestly, that pull was a riot to compete in. The track was great. Wide, well prepped, and groomed like an NTPA track between hooks. You just had to set up right and know that weight box was coming up fast.
 
I have a stupid question.... How did 300 feet become the standard anyway?

Could you change the sled to stop trucks at say 200, and if so, how dramatically would truck setup change? different gearing?
 
im surprised gene didnt ask to have it closed as soon as non sledders started posting.



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Don't know on the hundred yards thing. Probably came from the tractor guys.

YES a 200' track would really change truck setup IMO.
 
Tim, indoor pulls are 200, 250. I dont know the history on 300. I liked the movie.


As a general rule the sled will be heavier to start on a short track and nail you all the harder. Short tracks are not good on equipment-neither are mistakes, called 375 foot pulls.

Every sled/track is different.
 
Sledpuller said:
Tim, indoor pulls are 200, 250. I dont know the history on 300. I liked the movie.


As a general rule the sled will be heavier to start on a short track and nail you all the harder. Short tracks are not good on equipment-neither are mistakes, called 375 foot pulls.

Every sled/track is different.
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That is what is so crazy.... You would have to have one helluva notebook to be able to cross reference what works and what does not unless you pull on the same track with the same sled often....of course that wont help on a different track with a different sled.

Okay, another stupid question.... How does one know what changes to make per conditions? For example, what do you adjust if the track is loose compared to a hard track, and what surface is preferable?
 
Timbeaux38 said:
That is what is so crazy.... You would have to have one helluva notebook to be able to cross reference what works and what does not unless you pull on the same track with the same sled often....of course that wont help on a different track with a different sled.

Okay, another stupid question.... How does one know what changes to make per conditions? For example, what do you adjust if the track is loose compared to a hard track, and what surface is preferable?
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Gear selection, tire selection(if multiple tires are used), tire pressure, sometimes alittle tuning, and line selection.
 
Sledpuller said:
Steve, its no secret where the founders of the NADM worked before-everyone knows, sponsors, competitors, magazines, message boards. If it makes you feel better to keep saying it go right ahead.

The bottom line is, the talent left and moved on to grow Diesel Motorsports, which we are, and its coming along quite nicely no matter how much you and and a few more like yourself try to tear it part.

This was a fun little thread, and you want to twist it and use it to discredit an organization that is doing nothing but helping your business grow.
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Gene I'm not trying to tear it apart I want it to succeed and will support it all the way but somethings you type on this board floor me and confuse me that your not on the same page as david dunbar. You are very critical of anything that is not NADM and even the racing that makes up half of what NADM is all about I just don't understand your motives I guess like this thread you really were making fun of drag racers that we are not men like the real manly sleddpullers come on you wanted an arguement and you got one happy now.
 
nwpadmax said:
I guess back in July I made a deusie (doozy?) of a mistake LOL
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What you did was figure out how much speed and water it would take to float a sled.
Answer: Enough to take the sled home with you.



Tim, I know of pullers with very serious notebooks, but you wont get to look at one. They protect them like the Holy Grail.

They have everything in there, you would check at a drag strip or oval track and then some.
 
Sledpuller said:
Tim, I know of pullers with very serious notebooks, but you wont get to look at one. They protect them like the Holy Grail.

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LOL I probably wouldn't understand half of what I would see anyway.
 
quarterman said:
You are very critical of anything that is not NADM and even the racing that makes up half of what NADM is all about .
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No, not at all. We all understand NADM cannot do every event in the country, nor do we want to. Racers vs pullers, its just going to happen, its bench racing.

I mean I'm going to a PDRA race this weekend, now why would I do that if I hated racing or anything that wasn't NADM?

To set up a sled pull for next year.

Ok bad example.:hehe:
 
Maybe this is going to sound retarded but there's still some misunderstood stuff in all of these threads regarding traction and engine loading that I think needs to be addressed.

If you watch a lot of sledpulling videos, you will see different approaches work for different conditions.

On loose tracks, and/or when your tire pressure is high for your truck, you will load the motor off the line, gain rpm, and many times not drop the rpm and you spin out. The RPM you carry is kinda a traction indicator. If the motor goes sky high, obviously traction has been lost and IMO you've left something on the table. The advantage of spinning out is that it rarely breaks parts.

When you get everything just right, the motor will gain RPM at mid-track and then very definitely get pulled down hard at the end. Many times you will see even the mod guys get pulled down and get under the turbos. This, to me, is sucking everything out of the motor that it had to give. Nothing left on the table. This happens a lot on good clay. The downside is, you can break parts rather easily this way.

Note that each combination requires a bit different setup. If you are going for a fast run with a big gear, then guess what, you need to sacrifice some traction out of the hole to keep the wheelspeed up and rpms up so you can keep 'er lit.

So a lot of times there are tradeoffs made with tires, tire pressure, gearing, etc. to make the truck hook the way you want to for each end of the track.

If the RPMs are dropping and you are killing the motor at the end, that is what sledpulling is to me.
 
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