Billet Rods

Not every rod.....I made a mess out of all 6 PM rods. I wasn't real interested in trying something not proven, and also went with a design that has been holding their own in a 1900 hp engine or better.

Show someone running those H-beams and you might get some more interest.

Results will outweigh words every time.
 
Somebody please PM the reason why I am supposed to be ashsamed. No need to muddy this thread anymore. For the life I cant figure it out. Speaking the truth is nothing to be ashamed of. I feel just fine but could use agood laugh. There is room in my PM inbox.
 
nwpadmax said:
:clap: Yeah Gene, quoting Wikipedia, there's a way to make yourself look smart :rolleyes:

Yinz are like little kids.
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I did that so numnuts could unnastan the link.

Steve please list the sleds you have called, Im dieIng to know.



NORTHWEST SLED- 42,000, ON THE TRACK, 45,000 HOOKED TO THE TANDEM ROAD TRACTOR.
 
Why not someone call bauer's in the AM and get the full explination....

Last I knew from them, most were around 30k on the trailer, little bit more, depending on the "customness" of their sled. most of the time, for trucks they are running between 38-42k. The unlimited mod trucks and tractors need the sled fully loaded and can be upwards of 55-60 if not more.
 
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Diesel Tech said:
So did the rods in Scotts motor fail or did the block? The fact is we do not know at this time just as we do not know if it hit peak torque! What it did do was make enough torque that the block broke. Was that peak torque or was the block just weakened from the years of use?
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Steve, I am leaning toward the rods still being good and the block being weakened from years of use. I siad before (maybe not in this thread) that I had blown a freeze plug the pull before this one and that may have been the indicator of things to come, hence some movment in the block.

BBD
 
BigBadDodge said:
Steve, I am leaning toward the rods still being good and the block being weakened from years of use. I siad before (maybe not in this thread) that I had blown a freeze plug the pull before this one and that may have been the indicator of things to come, hence some movment in the block.

BBD
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Your still not tore into that thing yet? I'm usually right in there after I blow it all to hell.....helps with the healing process......:hehe::hehe:
 
Diesel Tech said:
So when can just one of you sled pull guys show everyone why a sled pull motor that makes 1400 HP @ 5500 RPM makes more power than a Drag race motor that makes 1400 HP @ 5500 RPM. Since what were talking about here is the Cummins motor and you cannot seem to grasp the idea of torque multiplication with gearing please show us the difference. Then you want to talk about wheel speed give me a break, sled pulling has no wheel speed to talk about. Most of you top out at 45MPH wheel speed with a 34" tall tire. Scott might make 70 MPH wheel speed. Try drag racing where we go 145 MPH with a 34" tall tire now that's wheel speed!

1/4 mile drag racing 0 - 145 MPH,
1/8 mile drag racing 0 - 118 MPH,
300 foot sled pulling 0 - 45 MPH,

For the record our Duramax rods have yet to fail in any motor and have been powering the most powerful Duramax motors for over 3 years. They are a drop in replacement for a factory Duramax motor which is just what I've stated, sorry if some of you cannot understand that. They are pre balanced like all of our rods are. If you change the internal weights from something other than factory specification you need to balance the assemble.

Also for the record I never stated anything about Cunningham rods.

Sleddy you love to twist things that have been said, let's look at your statements



You have yet to learn anything about gear reduction and torque multiplications and it sure shows here!

Then you come off with this



You have yet to show anyone where you dreamed up this one from. There is NO sled operator that will confirm these stupid numbers. Sleds weigh from 20,000 - 22,000 lbs. as the weight transfers forward they simulate a dragging weight of up to 40,000 lbs. Now that's only if the weight box is full and it travels to the full forward condition. My answer to your stupid claim was



I stand by the whole statement not just the little parts you try to pick out without the rest of it and try your best to twist around.

Your real good at calling people names and making claims that you are the expert at Sled Pulling and know everything about it but you do not event know what really goes on. I feel sorry for people you have spread all your BS to since you cannot event cover the basics of sled pulling properly!
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Steve the point everyone is trying to make is Torque is what gets you down a pulling track. We have alot more pulling against are truck witch is makeing are trucks work harder to get that sled where it needs to be. Im a Fan of both drag racing and pulling and i have to be honest and say ive broke everything drag racing 1 tranny 3 flex plates 1 rear end and other stupit ****.


I myself thing that Drag racing is more stress ful on a truck and its pretty easy to see why it is. :poke:
 
2wd_sled_puller said:
Steve the point everyone is trying to make is Torque is what gets you down a pulling track. We have alot more pulling against are truck witch is makeing are trucks work harder to get that sled where it needs to be. Im a Fan of both drag racing and pulling and i have to be honest and say ive broke everything drag racing 1 tranny 3 flex plates 1 rear end and other stupit ****.


I myself thing that Drag racing is more stress ful on a truck and its pretty easy to see why it is. :poke:
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Thats just cause you got a DMAX :hehe::hehe:
 
Diesel Tech said:
"Now if you were able to drag an engine of his level down to lower RPM it will break itself as the blocks will not hold the stress."

Before someone says I said something different. We both agree that he broke the block along with the quote above you somehow lost the word "not".

At Scotts power level I agree that the Cummins 6BT block isn't going to cut it without being filled and replaced every so often. What Scott did to break it I do not know as I do not recall him saying what happened in this thread other than what RPM's he runs down the track but I may have missed it.

As for you Sleddy take it any way you want too I really could care less. Maybe you just really do not know. All I did was to contact a few sled owner/operators to find out and it wasn't very hard to do. The numbers you spewed seemed very high to me so I checked it out. Turns out they told me they needed to worry about the weight for the weigh scales over the road when getting from event to event with the sled, trailer, weights and tractor.
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You may not know what Scott did to his block,but myself and the rest of the pulling world know----he over stress the f-in thing with way to much cylinder pres. -Somthing that is almost un-heard of drag racing.
 
2wd_sled_puller said:
I myself thing that Drag racing is more stressful on a truck and its pretty easy to see why it is. :poke:
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Did you read Diesel Monsters reply?

----You may not know what Scott did to his block,but myself and the rest of the pulling world know----he over stress the f-in thing with way too much cylinder pressure. -Something that is almost un-heard of drag racing.---



Drag racing gives shock loads,from launching and shifting. Pulling is steady stress-your block is going to get ripped in half- pressure.

We have proof of this.

Racers with Cummins, that have ripped their non 53 blocks in half, sign in please.


Pullers with the same? Just about the entire Mod class, more than once.
If that wasn't a problem, they would not have been filling them or going to billet blocks.

Slam dunk, swish~~~~~:kick::rockwoot::hehe:
 
what was the cause of the Smith's first engine that had a cylinder (or two) that decided it no longer wanted to be associated with the others and left the building???
 
From Rodger Lowery as of 9:00 this AM:
"Our sleds weigh 28,000 empty,we can add an extra 30,000 (thats 58,000 total)

For Diesel pickups we only bring 12,000 to add, depending on the track."

I have never seen a sled with no weight in it, on Diesel trucks. Work Stock, I have seen 2 weights (4000 #) which would give us 32,000, and then we add weight almost every class- up to 40,000.

Lowerys own state of the art pulling sleds that that everybody who pulls on this site as hooked to I would expect.
 
Diesel Tech said:
"Now if you were able to drag an engine of his level down to lower RPM it will break itself as the blocks will not hold the stress."

Before someone says I said something different. We both agree that he broke the block along with the quote above you somehow lost the word "not".

At Scotts power level I agree that the Cummins 6BT block isn't going to cut it without being filled and replaced every so often. What Scott did to break it I do not know as I do not recall him saying what happened in this thread other than what RPM's he runs down the track but I may have missed it.

As for you Sleddy take it any way you want too I really could care less. Maybe you just really do not know. All I did was to contact a few sled owner/operators to find out and it wasn't very hard to do. The numbers you spewed seemed very high to me so I checked it out. Turns out they told me they needed to worry about the weight for the weigh scales over the road when getting from event to event with the sled, trailer, weights and tractor.
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DT just so we have the correct info your sled guy must be towing with a one ton because a semi truck is legal for 80,000 lbs and the average double bunk truck tractor weighs 18 to 22,000 lbs. leaving it able to have a trailer that can weigh any where from 58000 to 62000 lbs as long as it can make axel weight.Axel weight on a pulling sled is stupid simple to keep legal do to the fact the weight box can move and the add on weights can be placed where needed to keep it legal.
 
Steve, I'll give you some advice-it was nuts trying to argue sled pulling with me- but you do not want to argue trucks and weights and laws with Diesel Monster, as he has broke them all! Look at his avatar.
 
Sledpuller said:
Steve, I'll give you some advice-it was nuts trying to argue sled pulling with me- but you do not want to argue trucks and weights and laws with Diesel Monster, as he has broke them all! Look at his avatar.
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HeHeHeHe,not many people relise I took that down the road about 4 miles through town like that.On a certified cat scale it was gossing 29970lbs.It ended all questions as to weather not I should put billet shafts in the trans!
 
I think it ends all questions as to whether or not you belong in an insane asylum as well LOL.
 
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