Cheating parts.

The worst part about the entire nitrous thing is that its pretty easy to spot a truck running it...and the rules will say no drugs, but no one does anything about it!

Ive been to quite a few pulls and seen the truck that Eric and Jackblack are talking about and its pretty abvious he is running spray....everyone, even the guy that put on the pull said it....no one did a thing, so that guy keeps running it.

Although it doesnt win many pulls....so I guess its not hurting too many people.







Im just waiting for a nice big N02 backfire to shake things up a bit!
 
If they aren't winning, or getting paid, why does it matter if they're cheating...it's not helping??

Chris
 
I was once told of a guy like 10 years ago or so that was running NOS on a pulling tractor. All the tech guys knew he was running it too but couldnt ever find it or how he activated the system. They would watch him go down the track and see if he flipped a switch or anything but he never did. Turns out he had a buddy in the crowd with a garage door opener that activated the system. Not sure if its true but a good idea i thought if you were willing to go that far
 
Wouldnt it be so obvious if the guys running nitrous when they aren't suposed to have a backfire?
 
horn buttons are handy, as are the light switches, cruise, and radio......


And I may know a fellow running propane in a tractor, through a fuel line that has a copper inside line....
 
nitrous does not backfire that often it depends on how it is set up I have a 2wd 1968 dodge stocker that we pulled on dirt with a 360 motor and we hid a nitrous system on it to compete with the guys that were running 500 plus cubic inch motors in the stock class we still couldn't beat them.
 
Bottom line , WHERE THERE IS A WILL , THERE IS A WAY .I was around when Darrel Alderman , and Scott Geofrion won a few world championships with it . There is a lot more to the story . Here is a link to it , if you want to read more .


A few years latter the “ Rat Poison “ fuel was the ticket , for those that don’t know NHRA in performance based classes, Pro Stock, Pro Stock Bike , Competition Eliminator , Super Stock, and Stock are subject to a mandatory Fuel Check after every run. It started out with a simple Dialectic test , about 15 years ago, along came masking agents , to make the fuel appear legal . So now NHRA has a compleat spectrograph lab on the return road .


What most people don’t factor in is that in these classes with tight competition all that is needed is a few extra horses . On a Pro Stock car , or a comp car 20 hp is the difference between number 1 qualifier , and 4th or 5th alternate .

Can nitrous be hidden on a puller , You bet , and I will tell you , no one will find it , but people can’t keep secrets long , and before long the gig is over , and the tech official is wiser . And the cycle continues .
Cheaters never win, and winners never cheat
 
im gonna try and cheat this weekend. wonder how it will go... i heard the tech is a nazi, but im not sure he can get under my truck to look!! :hehe:
 
Signature600 said:
If they aren't winning, or getting paid, why does it matter if they're cheating...it's not helping??

Chris
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BECAUSE HE'S STILL CHEATING!!!! i dont care if he's not winning or not. next year when my trucks done and he tries pulling in the class i will be im gonna raise hell cause the stupid bastard needs to quit being a pu$$y and build a truck that runs with in the rules and not have to cheat to be halfa$$ competative. most of us guys on these forums that are fairly knowledge able and guys building pulling trucks can run a nitrous system or propane or whatever and make it virtually undetectable. its still cheating. i dont care who you are or if i piss you off. ill call you out. thats BS
 
ive seen nitrous hidden in air-air intercooler, air-water intercoolers, intake piping etc.

look at the cummins intake manifold on the head, you can hide it under the bottom of the intake, behind the injection pump and unless someone has small enough hands to reach back up under there to feel the nozzle then nobody is gonna find it.

ive seen nitrous bottles inside subwoofer boxes, gutted center consoles, even behind a gutted dash of a "street" car where the heater box/AC used to be.
 
I hear tell that some aftermarket intake manifolds can be ordered with spray bars in them...MMMM Now a piece of hose over the NOS line mixed in with a few other vacuum/fuel lines run in the cab(lots of places to hide a small bottle in there!) Then get a progressive NOS controller and there ya have it...
 
I saw a on-board fire system that was a cheater nitrous system in the late 80's on a supercharged sprint car. The guy had been beating up on everyone that year and then suddenly he was average. You would never think it would make much difference on a 900 hp. 1000lb. car running on dirt but the little shot coming out of the corners or topping out on a straight made a huge change in a tight class.
 
One of the wise old farts that works for me has alot of good stories of cheating back in the day.....The comp cars used to get the used motor oil from the fuel cars & run it. Can anyone guess what advantage that would give a n/a motor?











Tick-tock-tick-tock-tick-tock.......
 
brushpuller said:
I hear tell that some aftermarket intake manifolds can be ordered with spray bars in them...MMMM Now a piece of hose over the NOS line mixed in with a few other vacuum/fuel lines run in the cab(lots of places to hide a small bottle in there!) Then get a progressive NOS controller and there ya have it...
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You havent seen a good setup yet usen 1/8 boost line
 
I remember a big drag racer friend of mine that ran a rail in a lot of very tight bracket racing was telling me about a guy that was beating up the competition and people knew he was cheating because he was running perfect lights every pass but couldnt figure it out It turned out that there was some electronics like a delay box that was a definite no no but they were activating it remote from a crew member with what looked like a video camera. I guess an official thought something fishy was going on with the "camera man" always in the same spot with an odd looking camera. He put a piece of paper in front of the camera when the car was at the tree and the car sat there until he took the paper out of the away then the car took off.
I know that some people dont think its a big deal but I got beat by a nitrous truck in an open class by a few feet now if it was for money I would have been pissed but it wasnt but I know there is always cheating I just hate to play by the rules and get beat by a cheater
 
not to derail the NOS talk but, how many pullers have you seen go through the tech line and have their bump stops checked, then go back to the pits and lower them down solid? ....like a zillion of em'. and unless that particular pull is real good at noticing stuff like that, nothing ever happens.
 
.....Im going to start shooting my wastegate out the side of my car so it will smoke the lights so nobody can see what im really running. Thats not cheating is it?
 
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