Fat Trucks- Who has a truck that wieghs 8k+ and pulls or wants too?

bdp

bdp

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This is an ongoing discusion and fight with some over trucks that have a weight problem. If you have a CC Ford or Mega cab Dodge it is very difficult to pull in a 8K# class.

What I am wandering is if there was a weight break to get those trucks in easier who would show to pull? Where are you located? Do you know others that would pull?

We are not going to get any rules changed unless we speak up and start a petition of sorts to let the rule makers know we are out here. So please post up if you have a Fatty!*bdh*
 
my truck is quite light, weighed in at 7100 with a 1/4 tank of fuel

however the driver could stand to lose a few pounds LOL
 
Does any one know what the cc mega cab duelys weight is??
down where i am we are going to run a 8500lbs and a 9000lbs class.
Its pisses me off! with me in my truck and a 1/4 of fuel my truck(cc sb 07 2500) weighs 7030 lbs that means i can run 1500-2000 lbs on the front of my truck thats a crap load on the front end. Im not afraid of breking but i just dont want to be breaking all the time!
 
Bad-Duvall said:
with me in my truck and a 1/4 of fuel my truck(cc sb 07 2500) weighs 7030 lbs QUOTE]

thats pretty light. My CC SB SRW f350 weighs 7900 without driver
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My 2002 QCSB Ram 2500 w/ 35" tires minus the tailgate and toolbox with the spare still in the bed is right around 7700 with me in it...Are the Crew cabs and Mega cabs that heavy where they can't make 8500lbs? I'm not talking about the guys with aux fuel tanks in the bed with 100 gals of fuel either, An empty Mega should be under 8500 lbs....I have no idea though, just speculation on my part


I also have a speaker box, amp, all steel steps, rear winch bumper that wieghs 80-100 lbs and ladder bars. Take all that away and I am another 200 lighter....So a new Megacab off the lot weighs 1000 more lbs than me?
 
8500 isnt the issue its 8000. The fords and the 3rd ges are now coming off the showroom floor at about 7800+, no add tires, big charger, traction bars, ds loops, tranny blanket, bigger exhaust, few trinkets in the cab, aftermarket speakers, etc it all adds up very quickly making it very hard to get to 8k. 8500 would be no problem at all for most, even 8200 would be fairly easy but its 8k that just puts it over the edge. I have even resorted to cutting cross mebers out from under the truck to lose some more cause I am out of things to take off.

2nd gens and Duramaxes need not post here, we all know they have no problems making 8k.:poke:
 
Imo I had to work to get my truck up to 8000lbs. WHY cant people with the mega cabs and Dwrs work to get there trucks down to 8000lbs
 
mine weighs 8750 with winch and 1/2 tank of fuel no speakers or tool box with me in it
 
bdp said:
8500 isnt the issue its 8000. The fords and the 3rd ges are now coming off the showroom floor at about 7800+, no add tires, big charger, traction bars, ds loops, tranny blanket, bigger exhaust, few trinkets in the cab, aftermarket speakers, etc it all adds up very quickly making it very hard to get to 8k. 8500 would be no problem at all for most, even 8200 would be fairly easy but its 8k that just puts it over the edge. I have even resorted to cutting cross mebers out from under the truck to lose some more cause I am out of things to take off.

2nd gens and Duramaxes need not post here, we all know they have no problems making 8k.:poke:
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My bad, I should have read the original post twice:bang I had 8500 in my head when it should have been 8K....

TwinMega06, what would you weigh without the 6" lift and 37's? I KNOW you would be under 8500 easy....maybe even 8400...
 
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I'm at 8260 (atleast when it had a Powerstroke) on a CrewCab SB and have to run 1 battery, dump out the glovebox, kick out the dog, and showup with 1/4 tank of fuel, also dump the tailgate and bed matt.
 
Mo Smoke said:
I'm at 8260 (atleast when it had a Powerstroke) on a CrewCab SB and have to run 1 battery, dump out the glovebox, kick out the dog, and showup with 1/4 tank of fuel, also dump the tailgate and bed matt.
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What? No Helium in the tires?:hehe:
 
my truck last season was always over about 100lbs now this season im afraid it will be over more with my front and rear guards tool box nitrous bottles and water:doh: id love to at least see a 8.5k class or even a 9k so i could hang some weights up front:evil im located up in southern indiana but plan on traveling to some bigger pulls this year...
 
Bad-Duvall said:
Imo I had to work to get my truck up to 8000lbs. WHY cant people with the mega cabs and Dwrs work to get there trucks down to 8000lbs
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Reason is because we run out of things to take off the truck to lighten it. I wish all I had to do was add a wieght bracket and hang wieghts. Instead I have to pull my back seat, subs, be at 1/4 tank of fuel and the tail gate. That dont seem so bad now but on top of that I have raped every heat shield out from under it, cut cross memebers out, shed the rear bumper, shed the running boards, spare was gone long ago, GN hitch and anything else besides the nessecities to drive daily. Everytime I add something to the truck like a ladder bar I have to find one more thing to take off.

And then after all that if I show up and the scales are reading 50-100#'s heavy I am screwed.
 
people complain about not being able to get their weight low enough. Fine then, raise it to 8500 but better NEVER see a PSD or Mega Cab with 1000# hangin off the front because according to you all, it ain't possible.

Around here (KY) they have changed the rules for most places to 8500. I didn't vote for it BUT whatever. People that are light complain about having to hang more weight or breaking more due to the excessive weight and increased forces. Here's a thought -the rules don't say you have to the maximum for the class. Get your truck setup to pull as best it can at a weight you are comfortable running it at and it lives for the next pull. I know several of the light trucks don't always weight right at 8500 but rather keep it at 8000 or 8200 and they do just fine.


So, as you can see, there are arguments for and against the weight change from both sides of the fence. I'm not sure what the right answer is though. I suppose 8500 is the compromise and light trucks can either suck it up and hustle more weights around or run a little light. I sure wouldn't want to be 9000# that's just crazy!


C-ya
 
I know for a fact that scales can be off a few hundred lbs. I pulled at Belle, MO and at Bloomsdale, MO. Both times I had 400 lbs of weights on my floorboards, both times with a full tank, no toolbox or tailgate and just the spare. At Belle I weighed 7600 lbs and at Bloomsdale I was at 7900. Only difference was the the scales....so who says the scales are right?


Also, who says the weights have to be in the front on a rack? If you are shy 500 lbs and you have 1000 on the front already and are worried about all that weight up front, throw them on the floorboard or in the bed. To date my weights have always been on the passenger floor. That will change this year though.
 
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I take off the tailgate, nothing in the bed, 1/8 tank or less fuel, no spare tire, no rear bumper, single stack for weight savings, factory radio and speakers. Clean all junk out of the cab. I leave everything in the cab that is bolted down. I take out the floor mats and bed mat. Then I can get down to 7700, so I can hang 300 out front.
 
Bad-Duvall said:
Imo I had to work to get my truck up to 8000lbs. WHY cant people with the mega cabs and Dwrs work to get there trucks down to 8000lbs
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I agree completely!!
 
bdp said:
Reason is because we run out of things to take off the truck to lighten it. I wish all I had to do was add a wieght bracket and hang wieghts. Instead I have to pull my back seat, subs, be at 1/4 tank of fuel and the tail gate. That dont seem so bad now but on top of that I have raped every heat shield out from under it, cut cross memebers out, shed the rear bumper, shed the running boards, spare was gone long ago, GN hitch and anything else besides the nessecities to drive daily. Everytime I add something to the truck like a ladder bar I have to find one more thing to take off.

And then after all that if I show up and the scales are reading 50-100#'s heavy I am screwed.
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Take off the duals and run singles. I don't feel bad for you Bean. You can get down there is you want to. Nobody told you to start with a crew cab long box dually. Gasser pulling has been around alot longer than the diesel trucks with there modified rules. How many of them can you run dual rear wheels? How many of them can you run a crew cab? Most have wheel base rules and you just don't see a truck like yours. Most even say the body, frame, and motor must be make specific. You should have traded your truck for a dodge, used your 7.3 as a tow rig.

How much leverage advantage do you think you gain with your long truck over, lets say, an extended cab short box? What you give in hanging weight you gain by having your motor sitting 3 feet farther from the rear axle. I say stop complaining about weight. Get down to 8000, you can do it.
 
What class are you guys propose go to 8500#. Street ? Ive run 8500# once never again thats is way to heavy for anything other than street (2.6). We break enough at 8k I bent my front axle. It seems that its the fords always complaining about being over, I ran against a CC shortbed ford all summer and he had 600 hanging on the front. So if you have a CC longbeds, which is fine if that is what you want to buy to drive on the road but what is going to happen for you 1 or 2 people that cant make weight they will shorten the wheelbase like the have in all the gas classes. They arent going to change for a couple people because they will lose 10 to 15 that wont and that much weight
 
lubeowner said:
Take off the duals and run singles. I don't feel bad for you Bean. You can get down there is you want to. Nobody told you to start with a crew cab long box dually. Gasser pulling has been around alot longer than the diesel trucks with there modified rules. How many of them can you run dual rear wheels? How many of them can you run a crew cab? Most have wheel base rules and you just don't see a truck like yours. Most even say the body, frame, and motor must be make specific. You should have traded your truck for a dodge, used your 7.3 as a tow rig.

How much leverage advantage do you think you gain with your long truck over, lets say, an extended cab short box? What you give in hanging weight you gain by having your motor sitting 3 feet farther from the rear axle. I say stop complaining about weight. Get down to 8000, you can do it.
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Amen:thankyou2: :thankyou2: :rockwoot:
 
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