Fat Trucks- Who has a truck that wieghs 8k+ and pulls or wants too?

yup you made it 8500. now look at how many people you just scr-wed! they all have to go out and find wieghts which cost 65-100 bucks. and sling them every friggin weekend and hope there backs don't go out. geez maybe these small tracks plain and simply need more classes. they reap the same profit anyway. and are you really getting rich pulling. NOT!
 
No-one is forcing any of you to weight up...you can run at 8000lbs, and hang the same weights you do now. The way I read it, is the trucks that are heavy, can hang no weights, and weigh up to 8500lbs.

Over 8000lbs, no hanging weights...under 8000lbs, hanging weights to get to 8K;)

Or am I reading it wrong?
Chris
 
Here is another idea, instead of 60" in front of the front axle for the weights, make it x number of feet from the rear rear axle.
 
zstroken said:
Here is another idea, instead of 60" in front of the front axle for the weights, make it x number of feet from the rear rear axle.
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a regular cab long box would look pretty funny with the weight hanging 8 feet out in front of the truck.

My opinion only here. The Fat Trucks are the long trucks, they already have an advantage due to the extra wheel base. They are always duallys also. Does a dually have an advantage? They don't need any more breaks. Get down to 8000 or you don't pull. Pretty simple rule.

If you want to pull competitively build your truck to fit the rules that are already in place. Don't ***** about the rules and try to get everyone else to change to fit your one truck.
 
Why not base it on wheelbase? X amount of lbs per inch of wheelbase?
lbs x wheelbase = wieght limit
 
This will never be settled. The heavy truck guys will want the 8500# rule for obvious reasons. And the light truck guys will want the 8000# rule for obvious reasons.

I have a 6500# regular cab long bed(with me and 1/2 tank of fuel), and last time I pulled I hung 700# off the front, and had about 1800# in the bed. The sled a lot of us run with around here is a 8500# run what you brung class, and the scales are about 300# light all the time. So that means I actually need about 2800# of weight to get me where i need to be!

Now I like for everyone to be able to pull. I might have a big heavy pig i wanna pull one day, and if i do, i dont want to not be able to because of weight, but I think an 8200# rule would be plenty fair enough. I like 8k better, but personally i like for everyone that wants to, to be able to pull.

It is just something that is gonna have to be compromised on. I still think most of the dually's could make 8k lbs. Dont you have train horns on yours house or did you take them off?
 
Some rules will let ya be over 5% of your class but only once to offset the diff in scales, if it becomes a constant overage than your points are not counted for the event till corrected.
 
See I can't afford a diesel right now so I am stuck pulling my gasser. With me in it, 3/4 tank of gas tailgate and spare tire gone I squeeked under the 6800# at the last pull here on the eastern shore. I mean it was either 5# short or at 6800 depending how much rocking i did in the truck. Most places here run 6500 for gas classes. SO with everything on my truck I am at 7000, where am I to find 500 to take off. That is going to be a fun one. I am by far not complaining, I chose to own this truck, I chose to lift it and built it the way I want. If i want to pull I will have to find a way to shed the punds or stick with a few pulls at Tuckahoe steam and rail. Its simple as that, its pay to play. Do the work or don't pull.
 
lubeowner said:
a regular cab long box would look pretty funny with the weight hanging 8 feet out in front of the truck.

My opinion only here. The Fat Trucks are the long trucks, they already have an advantage due to the extra wheel base. They are always duallys also. Does a dually have an advantage? They don't need any more breaks. Get down to 8000 or you don't pull. Pretty simple rule.

If you want to pull competitively build your truck to fit the rules that are already in place. Don't ***** about the rules and try to get everyone else to change to fit your one truck.
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Enough said :clap:
 
$1 per pound over, run whatever weight you want, extra money goes to the purse, but skips the fat trucks in the class wherever they place.
 
extreme diesel said:
Here's an idea for the "fatty" trucks; for evey 100# over you loose 1" of hitch hight so a 8500# truck would run a 21" hitch insted of 26" In a street class that would alow almost any one to pull and not give the heavy trucks the advantage.
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Thats actually not bad- until the short trucks FINALLY realize, that just maybe, a lower hitch is an advantage.
 
Sledpuller said:
Thats actually not bad- until the short trucks FINALLY realize, that just maybe, a lower hitch is an advantage.
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Gene, Just so I know when is a lower hitch an advantage?
 
I just got back from our Banquet and they ended up dropping the Open Diesel class due to a lack of particapation of regular qualifing trucks (basically twin turbo) so we now just have a stock / Enhanced class single turbo only , fuel only and they upped the weight to 8200lbs, any tire size, no nitrous or meth..We'll see how this works out during the beginning of the season.
 
extreme diesel said:
Gene, Just so I know when is a lower hitch an advantage?
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26" is a max rule-not ideal rule.
If there were no hitch height rule, you would see our Wile E. Coyote pulling brothers, having hitches braced off the weight box, going back above the cab height, thinking they had an advantage. :hehe:

Why do you run weights on the front?
To keep the front end on the ground, for better traction. What happens when you go up with a hitch?

One thing I have seen, is pullers tend to worry more about can we, instead of should we. Tire size, weight, hitch height- they are all max limits, but dont run to the max just because the rules say you can. Think outside the box, and try going the other way.

Its no different than cutting fuel back to make power.

Good times to run a lower hitch:
When you watch the guy in front of you bog down, and you know he has 200 hp on you.

The track is ripping trucks in half.

Hard launching, heavy sled

You are stuck between gears and tire size, and need to run a little bit more rpm.
 
On the thought of thinking outside the box I have seen times when taking a few wieghts off will gain feet on the track as well.
 
Alright i am in the heavy truck club,kinda!

Ext cab long bed ford dually. If you look at the last 3 Diesel World mags you can see it at terre haute with 3 #70 weights on it, no tailgate and i myself only weigtabout 160lbs. I do not even hae the advantage of the longer wheelbase i just have a heavy truck. I have stripped alot of stuff like back seat center console, gooseneck hitch so i can hang those three weights.

But thier is more stuff i can do to allow for more suitcase weights if i want too.

what we have done in our local clubs is allowed the work stock (2.5-2.6 class trucks) to go up to 8500lbs because this truely is a class that most of the guys actually do drive some, tow trailers with etc. They are in general (not all of them)550-650 trucks that can still do a little work, Alot of times they are newer trucks and they are heavy, I have a customer with an 08 ford crew cab shortbed that weighs 8400ls with half a tank of fuel.

Now the 2.8-3.0 class in general is a class for the non daily drivers. Yes we can drive em on the street, but most of us dont for other reasons. They are pulling trucks! We have stayed at 8000lbs to help keep parts breakage down. We discussed raising the class to an 8200lb class, I am by far the heavist truck and i decided to keep it the same

If you cant get your truck to the 8000 rule for the bigger class maybe ya need to adjust which class you wanna pull in,

9000lbs is way to much!!

Travis
 
extreme diesel said:
On the thought of thinking outside the box I have seen times when taking a few wieghts off will gain feet on the track as well.
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Exactly, sometimes, I have seen tracks, that needed 500 off, or you were going to get towed from the 100' mark back to the pits.
 
i also agree with sleddy and e.d. but we are complaing about getting down to that weight with our daily drivers if we won the lotto then ya we could get another truck and build it to meet the rules besides i thought this thread was for fat trucks only
 
Hey guys, I'm new to this site but I have pulled a few times with my 98.5 Dodge QC LB and it weighs in at 7,300 1/2 tank and my fat butt. But I have a shorter wheelbase Fatty that I have been toying around with pulling. It's a 2000 Ford Excursion 7.3 4x4. Now I'm not gonna toy with the idea of pulling it till it has been Destroked but it weighs in at 8,200 with 1/4 tank and me. I don't agree with going higher than an 8,000 class. If I pulled it I would take out what I got to in order to make weight. I may take out enough or even be able to hang a weight or two. But I'm not gonna complain about stripping the truck to make weight. The lighter guys got just as much headache with adding more weights cause there day just got a little harder as did someone who has to take out weight. I wouldn't change anything. I have pulled tractors for a few years. I hate that I am too heavy to make it in smaller classes but that is the way it is. I say leave it the way it is. Rules are rules. Live with it. Just my .02
 
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