New NTPA Class

JerrodGlover said:
Adam the P-Pump rule is limiting the mechanical pump guys. It is saying that they cant run the 12 cylinder pump or a sigma. There is no rule that you cant run a smaller pump like an "A Pump".
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understand the "spirit" of the rule if you will.... but the letter of the rule could be interpated another way. granted this is at the descretion of the tech teching and his/her interpetating of said rule.

9. Maximum “P” series pump 3000 or 7100 series only (No aftermarket housing). with a 1 plunger per cylinder limit. (No Sigma pumps)

that only P-pump 3000 or 7100 series are allowed. with limit of 1 plunger per cylinder OEM housing and no Sigma pumps..

funny it doesnt mention yes or no on Ag-goveners..
heres 2 examples that covers everyone....
NADM 2.8 fueling rules said:
Fuel Injection Pump: The fuel injection pump is limited to a stock-appearing, OEM engine make-specific pump only. Dual high-pressure common-rail fuel pumps or HPOPs are permitted. The P7100 injection pump, if equipped, may utilize either a stock or agricultural governor.
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this is alot more clear and consice no?
NADM SS fueling rules said:
Fuel Injection Pump: Open.
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Looks like the "East Coast Series" trucks will fit in pretty good...:rockwoot:
 
malibu795 said:
understand the "spirit" of the rule if you will.... but the letter of the rule could be interpated another way. granted this is at the descretion of the tech teching and his/her interpetating of said rule.

9. Maximum “P” series pump 3000 or 7100 series only (No aftermarket housing). with a 1 plunger per cylinder limit. (No Sigma pumps)

that only P-pump 3000 or 7100 series are allowed. with limit of 1 plunger per cylinder OEM housing and no Sigma pumps..

funny it doesnt mention yes or no on Ag-goveners..
heres 2 examples that covers everyone....

this is alot more clear and consice no?
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P3000 is the AG gov. pump
 
so, the way i am reading these rules you could drop a DT360 in a truck if you were so inclined and run it in this class? i am missing something, or is there not any rule that says that the engine must be offered in a 1 ton or smaller truck.
 
superdutyfarmer said:
so, the way i am reading these rules you could drop a DT360 in a truck if you were so inclined and run it in this class? i am missing something, or is there not any rule that says that the engine must be offered in a 1 ton or smaller truck.
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fuel type isnt stated either.
 
(Cummins may be put in Chevy or Ford) that is my favorite. You can't put a Chevy in a Ford or Dodge but then again who would want to :owned:

What about water?
 
Read, all rules the same as ssdfwd! That covers 1 ton or smaller just no billit opend drive line water injection allowed and diesel fuel only!
 
malibu795 said:
can i run a blended diesel fuel? with adatives? or blend other fuels in to #2 diesel?

most places state #2 only.. and off road diesel isnt allowed.
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don't know about that I was just showing that it is a diesel class.

I wonder how soon they will have dates setup for next year to see if there is a regional group that I would fit into.
 
So its a 3" oem driveline class? They must be working for Dana or NP or something!
 
JerrodGlover said:
Well it is published on NTPA's website as of today that its final. A new class for the NTPA on a State and Regional level. Here are the rules:

Diesel Pro Stock FWD Trucks (new class)
(ST / RN class only)

1. Diesel trucks only, maximum weight 8,000 lbs.
2. All normal NTPA FWD / Diesel SSFWD rules, including shielding, safety and SFI requirements, apply to this class plus the following rules:
3. Trucks must have working brakes.
4. Trucks must have full size steel or OEM type body. The bed of the truck must have metal floor. If bed is gutted, 200lbs. of movable weight must be placed rearward of the centerline of the rear axle.
5. All front axles must have coil or leaf springs and must be in stock location.
6. Engine must remain in stock location.
7. Maximum engine size 460 cubic inches.
8. Engines may be changed to cross factory lines of manufacturing. (Cummins may be put in Chevy or Ford) No after market blocks or heads.
9. Maximum “P” series pump 3000 or 7100 series only (No aftermarket housing). with a 1 plunger per cylinder limit. (No Sigma pumps)
10. All vehicles are limited to a single turbocharger with an inducer bore in the compressor housing no larger than 3.0 inches measured at the smallest diameter area of the compressor wheel. Compressor wheel must protrude through housing at least 1/8 inch. All provisions allowing air to the wheel other than via the bore are prohibited. Map enhancement grooves allowed.
11. Wheelbase maximum 158”
12. Hitch hook point must not be less than 44” from the centerline of rear axle..
13. Hitch must not exceed a max of 25 degree angle from pivot point to hook point.
14. DOT street legal tires are only tires allowed. No altered, cut or recap tires. 35” tire maximum height.
15. Dual rear wheels are allowed.
16. Mechanical or electronic fuel injection permitted

Whats everyones thoughts, Good? Bad? Did they forget anything?
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Superdutyfarmer,
If IH produced a 1 ton or smaller production pick up with a DT360 then you could swap one in a chevy or whatever. But they didn't so I don't think you can in NTPA.
 
wheres the rules about water, nitrous and propane???

how bout tilt bodies? as long as it's steel looks like you're fine?

looks like the rear susp. can be solid, trussed, etc. as there aren't any rules against it.


Over all, not a lot of rules. Should be a wicked class. If it is, in fact, 1-ton or less driveline. What a waste IMO!



C-ya
 
SmokeShow said:
wheres the rules about water, nitrous and propane???

how bout tilt bodies? as long as it's steel looks like you're fine?

looks like the rear susp. can be solid, trussed, etc. as there aren't any rules against it.


Over all, not a lot of rules. Should be a wicked class. If it is, in fact, 1-ton or less driveline. What a waste IMO!



C-ya
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I like the oem driveline that will toss it up a lil
 
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