Nitrous install help

DTanklage said:
sorta

thought that whats gave you a boner?

always being bigger n badder n knowing EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING

lol
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Not the case at all Scooter. But atleast I provide an answer instead of just sitting back being a dewsh.:kick:

Let's examine the cause for my statement....

You do have a knowledge for nitrous oxide systems, yet instead of providing info you post bs.

How many here have commented on your posting style?:bang Lots

If your not gonna change, then perhaps we have to get more accustomed to you being you, but this street goes two ways, you have to get accustomed to us.:shake: And there are individuals who will be the cat while you be the mouse.

Here's the deal, if you have the knowledge on a subject in the tech threads- post it up, help your fellow diesel heads, in return you just might learn something yourself, that's one way we progress our little hobby we enjoy so much......:rockwoot:

Personally I feel there is much to be taught and learned on nitrous use in diesels. And the subject has yet to get the full meat and potatoes discussion.

Feed lines, y-blocks, solenoid sizing, optimum solenoid placement, bottle positioning, distances from bottle to solenoids, lean out conditions, nozzle placement, nozzle selection, distances from solenoids to nozzles, bottle pressures, bottle warmers, unsafe practice with bottles and manipulating the pressures hazardously with flame sources, correct blowoff safety discs ect ect ect. See what I'm saying- there's lots to be discussed.......





You can let out some of the hard earned knowledge, be productive, teach, get involved in worthy technical discussions, and you might learn a few things from others along the way- or you can continue to be an assclown.

Either way it's all good.:hehe::hehe:
 
RacinDuallie said:
there's lots to be discussed.......
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dude asked where to put the nozzles

he got a bunch of bogus answers

remember what happened last time i tried to explain where the lines should go?

(dual feed p-pump)

no thanks


"its all good" ?

know where that saying originated ?
 
I think this could be a pretty informative thread, heck I've already learned some good info. But DTanklage you always come in and mess up every thread you have yet to post any good info that would be useable to some one running nitrous. NO ONE cares how smart you think you are. So post some tech info or go away.
 
it was asked where the nozzles should be placed

the question was answered (close to the int vlv as poss)

what else do you want to know?
 
97singlecab said:
I think this could be a pretty informative thread, heck I've already learned some good info. But DTanklage you always come in and mess up every thread you have yet to post any good info that would be useable to some one running nitrous. NO ONE cares how smart you think you are. So post some tech info or go away.
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I don't think that's a fair assesment. The dude is entitled to post his opinion. I'm sure he is knowledgeable. Maybe if he is engaged into the conversation differently who knows, he will leak out some of the info that was learned. Some guys don't like to volunteer chit, and are happy with others learning the same way he did, trial and error.

This "could" be a very informative thread.

As I stated, there is much to discuss........
 
So when putting it that close to the intake, does it get to mix good with the air going in so it reaches all 6 cylinders. Chris at relentless installed mine, and I know he has been playing with nitrous on diesels for like 8 years or so I take his word on it. We put the nozzle in my intake horn. Other nitrous guys have been telling me to either put the nozzle on the the hot side of the intercooler and some said right by the cold side outlet on the tube that goes to the air horn.



Anythoughts guys as to which will help out the most.
 
RacinDuallie said:
I don't think that's a fair assesment. The dude is entitled to post his opinion. I'm sure he is knowledgeable. Maybe if he is engaged into the conversation differently who knows, he will leak out some of the info that was learned. Some guys don't like to volunteer chit, and are happy with others learning the same way he did, trial and error.

This "could" be a very informative thread.

As I stated, there is much to discuss........
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Your right, maybe he does have something good to say i guess we'll see.
 
i'v been running 2 stages in the air intake tube pre turbo dont know if its the best way but works real good for me, running 120 jets in both stages, and went through 30 or so bottles before turbo damage never saw a problem, only issue is some overspeeding and lost alittle material on exh wheel. btw this is with a stock turbo pushing 75 psi(w/both stages) with stock long block (not o-ringed) never had ne issues with the tune always ran good had enough nos to clean all smoke up to a small haze put it pre turbo to try to achieve the same affect as a larger turbo by making the air more dense truck mad 1450 ft lbs on dyno with both stages after dissassembly all internal parts looked like new pistons with no pitting or damage and no valve damage i know this isnt a good setup for longevity i was simply trying to see the limits of a stock engine with just some small fuel upgrades
 
SCHOOL BUS said:
So when putting it that close to the intake, does it get to mix good with the air going in so it reaches all 6 cylinders. Chris at relentless installed mine, and I know he has been playing with nitrous on diesels for like 8 years or so I take his word on it. We put the nozzle in my intake horn. Other nitrous guys have been telling me to either put the nozzle on the the hot side of the intercooler and some said right by the cold side outlet on the tube that goes to the air horn.



Anythoughts guys as to which will help out the most.
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even if you are getting the nitrous for free why waste it?

you want a dense intake charge

makin your turbo or your intercooler cooler is a waste of nos

optimum set up would be an individual runner intake with one jetted fan nozzle per port

imo

ps - if ya cant afford to do that then figure out a way to get it as close to the valve as you can and as evenly distributed as possible while doing so

pps - it aint rocket science
 
DTanklage said:
even if you are getting the nitrous for free why waste it?

you want a dense intake charge

makin your turbo or your intercooler cooler is a waste of nos

optimum set up would be an individual runner intake with one jetted fan nozzle per port

imo

ps - if ya cant afford to do that then figure out a way to get it as close to the valve as you can and as evenly distributed as possible while doing so

pps - it aint rocket science
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That was a good post right till the end. Then you get arrogant, this is the part of your posting everyone has a problem with, of course its not rocket science but there is no need to talk down to everyone on here that might not know.
 
all i meant by that is we aint trying to squeeze 400 hp worth of nos into a 1500cc gas motor

thats rocket science

with diesel fuel it isnt gonna matter if every cyl doesnt get exactly 16.66% of the nos

would be best if it did but its not crucial
 
olegreen95 said:
i'v been running 2 stages in the air intake tube pre turbo dont know if its the best way but works real good for me, running 120 jets in both stages, and went through 30 or so bottles before turbo damage never saw a problem, only issue is some overspeeding and lost alittle material on exh wheel. btw this is with a stock turbo pushing 75 psi(w/both stages) with stock long block (not o-ringed) never had ne issues with the tune always ran good had enough nos to clean all smoke up to a small haze put it pre turbo to try to achieve the same affect as a larger turbo by making the air more dense truck mad 1450 ft lbs on dyno with both stages after dissassembly all internal parts looked like new pistons with no pitting or damage and no valve damage i know this isnt a good setup for longevity i was simply trying to see the limits of a stock engine with just some small fuel upgrades
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Stock turbo? 75 psi ? multiple times?:what:
 
I would imagine that to be a pressure spike from the nitrous injection. My 6.0 would spike the gauge up to the pin on a 60 psi. gauge until I moved the boost gauge fitting to behind the jets.
 
RacinDuallie said:
:poke:Nitrous- as close to the intake valve as you can.... individual nozzles sprayin directly into the intake port.
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DTanklage said:
even if you are getting the nitrous for free why waste it?

you want a dense intake charge

makin your turbo or your intercooler cooler is a waste of nos

optimum set up would be an individual runner intake with one jetted fan nozzle per port

imo

ps - if ya cant afford to do that then figure out a way to get it as close to the valve as you can and as evenly distributed as possible while doing
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We share the same opinon.
 
N F W (i actually did not know that, just saw what you had wrote and repeated it) (jk)

the guy makin 75 psi with a stock turbo? whos to say it didnt? for a minute anyways. he was running an 1/8" hole for a jet for Gods sake. (x2) i am curious whos solenoids he was running and who reworked them? for a system like that to be right you would need 2 bottles fat lines and killer valves. otherwise you would just be wastin nos. its makes it power from expanding, that means everything has to be larger than the jet, starting off big and tapering down. i personally would not put a 120 jet behind an off the shelf 16048r (nos pro race bottom discharge). too much of the expansion would be taking place within the nitrous system...not in the motor. curious who worked this guys valves

???
 
I didn't say it was rocket science. Just asking a question about something I don't know about. I'm here to learn and help not to be a douche, can you say the same?


So how about putting a few evenly spaced nozzles in the intake plate? Would that work? I'm just thinking the nitrous I gonna go in the cylinder closest to the nozzle. Are you saying a fan nozzle will spread it out so each cylinder gets an equal amount?
 
they have a pretty wide spray pattern

nice setup would be 3 of them from the underside

point ea right at the 'rounded' part of the head that divides the ports

only problem would be you would either have to run one or three valves

how ya gonna plumb 3 nozzles off of 2 valves?

lol

*and using only one valve you would be pretty limited on jetting
 
I guess I'll just stick to my simple set up. Unless anyone has info on how to get the most out of a NX .093 solenoid. I saw 1450 degrees in the 1/8 Saturday. I was told nitrous would help cool if you had enough. I guess I'm just throwing enough at it to help burn the extra fuel and make the egts hotter.
 
I coulda swore the .58 jet was cooler egts then the .88 the .88 has produced a little faster et's tho. I guess I need to dyno tune the nitrous
 
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