Opinions on this tire rule.

All organizations going to nadm rules is a good idea in my oppinion, most of the guys who make rules in little organizations are also pullers and that never works, as far as the dual tire rule that might work in the 2.6 class, but trying to put the power the rest of the classes are making to the ground on 4 tires isnt gonna work worth a damn. We have some hot gas trucks in illinois running 4 tires but all are running wide 15.5s in back and they are a long way from the power 2.8 and up classes are making. The dually fender rule is a joke. Dangerous? To what a low flying bird??? I can see safety but come on boys flying dirt is hardly a safety issue at a truck pull.
 
I'll speak up now that I was told about this thread. I am the Dmax he is talking about. And by the way Ryan Lusk's Ford w/ a cummins did not beat me and 2008 was a completely stock LBZ including turbo for me. Only people who beat me were ECI guys in 2008 when I went to pull with them. In 2009 I gave them a run for their money before #6 slug decided to find god and get holy. And you are off on the $$$ spent on the build too.:hehe:

anyhow, back to tires....... I am not the decision maker on the rules. I present the rules to the board and then it is voted on. The 62" section width rule was set to keep everyone equal on tires with out stating a specific tire size limit. You could run 6.50's in the front and 24.50"s in the rear for all I care. If you can turn 37" tall tires, go for it. No limit there, just width. Duals on trucks in my opinion should be covered. I think the 62" or 63" limit if need be to run 6-10.50's should be it.

And I'm not making this rule because I don't have a dually, hell if I wanted to run duals I'd just run ECI and put duals on a SRW truck. I think tires need to be as equal as possible and people need to work on set up, not just power alone.

Kevin
 
knagel said:
I'll speak up now that I was told about this thread. I am the Dmax he is talking about. And by the way Ryan Lusk's Ford w/ a cummins did not beat me and 2008 was a completely stock LBZ including turbo for me. Only people who beat me were ECI guys in 2008 when I went to pull with them. In 2009 I gave them a run for their money before #6 slug decided to find god and get holy. And you are off on the $$$ spent on the build too.:hehe:

anyhow, back to tires....... I am not the decision maker on the rules. I present the rules to the board and then it is voted on. The 62" section width rule was set to keep everyone equal on tires with out stating a specific tire size limit. You could run 6.50's in the front and 24.50"s in the rear for all I care. If you can turn 37" tall tires, go for it. No limit there, just width. Duals on trucks in my opinion should be covered. I think the 62" or 63" limit if need be to run 6-10.50's should be it.

And I'm not making this rule because I don't have a dually, hell if I wanted to run duals I'd just run ECI and put duals on a SRW truck. I think tires need to be as equal as possible and people need to work on set up, not just power alone.

Kevin
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Hey Kevin, I never said I beat you, so I don't know where you got that **** from.
 
So some people on here are saying all trucks should run SRW. to me this makes the Work Stock Class B.S. work stock should be Street Driven and Able to be used to work. By that i am Saying If somebody bought a Dually for the Extra Load he/she hauls. He/She should be able to pull it as a Dually and if they want to run a little larger tire it should be OK hell i think the Stock skinnys look funny (and how many of you on here want your Truck rather it be a dedicated puller or a dd/weekend warrior truck look good.) as far as Adding the extra 2 tires to a SRW and them hnagign out i can see the Saftey issues. I also dont see them driving down the Road with out Getting hasseled by the Cops
 
What about the 3000hp alcohol tractors with a whole cut pulling tire sticking out? Just cant see how what we do is dangerous.
 
Because a "CUT" pulling tire wont hold rocks like a DOT street tire will and not to mention if one gets stuck between the duals i could see it being a saftey issue. Ive had rocks from in the pits get stuck in my tires and back when i ran with the window down a rock came out of the rear tire hit the mirror and then hit me in the head luckly i had a helmet on had i not had it on and the force it hit me could have done some damage, took a chip out of my helmet
 
so are you gonna start running srw then for safety because even dually bed trucks can throw rocks we know that.
 
Nope i just run with the window up now, but was just stating the possibility of damage from the duals but now my tires dont stick out any further then a stock single wheel does. They dont throw as bad since the rockwell was put under it but it did back when i ran duals on a srw D80
 
I think jeremy's concerns was prolly more with spectators and track workers than the drivers.
 
I agree that it should be one or the other to save all the BS and *****ing:poke:. BUT on the other hand, i think it should be whichever you want to run to make your truck run well the way it's set up. And if you are running singles and getting beat by a dually most times then that would tell me i might need to do some changes to keep up, not want to make a rule so you don't have to change anything for your own good. But there again is the advantage and disadvantage argument on running duals.
As far as safety goes, any tire spinning at a high rate of speed is going to throw stuff once in a while fellas. The rarity of something happening becuase of it isn't grounds enough to make a rule to change the way it's been. **** happens, its motorsports!
 
This associations runs gas trucks and the trucks running bar tires complete stick out from the body and are no way covered. So they cant say its a safety issue.
 
I was just stating the other side of the argument on the duals. Could i see a org. doing something like this for saftey reasons, the way our society has gone to a sue happy nation, yes! Would i be for the rule of no duals, hell no! Would i conform if a rule was passed, yes but would kick and scream while doing it.

My concern in the above post was not for my saftey but the saftey of track crew and fans. When i strap in my truck i am fully aware of the dangers that could happen, but you cant say "S**t happens, its a motorsport" because that could be the end of it all. Who wants that on them that something from their truck killed or injuried a little kid or adult for that matter. I sure dont and would probally park my truck if that happened. Just stating my opinion
 
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I was just stating the other side of the argument on the duals. Could i see a org. doing something like this for saftey reasons, the way our society has gone to a sue happy nation, yes! Would i be for the rule of no duals, hell no! Would i conform if a rule was passed, yes but would kick and scream while doing it.

My concern in the above post was not for my saftey but the saftey of track crew and fans. When i strap in my truck i am fully aware of the dangers that could happen, but you cant say "S**t happens, its a motorsport" because that could be the end of it all. Who wants that on them that something from their truck killed or injuried a little kid or adult for that matter. I sure dont and would probally park my truck if that happened. Just stating my opinion
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I didnt mean it in the sense that who cares if stuff happens. Its just that things can and will happen just like in any other sport. I couldn't agree with you more on the sue happy world part too, somebody's always looking for a free ride anymore it seems.
 
Ok sorry, i miss under stood you. You get some people on here that have that mentality that they dont care if something does fly off their truck and does hurt someone and will argue with you "that will never happen to my truck" just because it makes a little more work for them to get their trucks to fit the saftey rules and 90% of them are the ones that really need the loops and sheilds but think other wise, Sorry for the derail. Back to the weird tire rule. My opinion if you can spin them, run them!
 
If there has to be a rule made then make it to have the tires covered. Duals dont work on all set ups. A lot of the guys I pull with have tried duals and found there truck to pull better with SRW. I like duals, and my truck was a dually fom the factory. Its nice to have options. Maybe just make a rule to get rid of the rocks.
 
Another thing mention about the tire rule was less breakage. IMO if you cant afford to break your in the wrong sport its not if it when. I would just like to option if i ever felt the need. Most of the tracks around here are loose not tacky tracks where a drw could help a ton or maybe not dont know unless you give it a try.
 
just trying to keep an open mind here....as an organization how would you justify diesel trucks running duals but not the gassers? i know the hp in a 485ci gasser is going to be less than a diesel but what are some other GOOD reasons? just try to make a fair debate with gas rules that have been established for a long time. jay
 
:badidea:What is wrong with pulling with duals? Most duallys are diesel now days. Many fans relate to there own truck in the parking lot. It is just another set up option. If there is a danger I dont know about then make your rules to cover the danger not take others rights. This is still the USA. JMO
 
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