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seeker1056

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Hi all

Can anyone tell me or give me a link to any of your various organizations rulebooks

I am looking to update our class rules and I would like to get closer to US rules for our "Pro Street" class as we call it, which is a licenced, insured, street truck class, with a max 2.9 turbo rule.

thanx in advance for any help you all can give

Ken
 
Ken- Look at the rules for the 2.6" class and thats where the pro-streets are going to fall into place. I still honestly think the 2.9" charger rule is totally crazy!!! If someone wants to spend the money and build a 12valve dually with even a 2.8" charger the whole class will get there eye's opened up. The 2.8 is already killing major drive train and you will probably see unlimited axles start happening in the next year or so. I think the limit should be 2.8" and if someone doesn't want to play with that then they can jump up into pro-mod....And honestly, I think that same 12valve dually with a single charger I mentioned above would open there eyes too as its not a HP thing in that class when it comes to winning.

Ryan
 
Just adopt the NADM rules. Seems most other organizations are going by the NADM rules now a days.
 
i will look at those sanctioning bodies rules - thanx

I do NOT want to see hanging weights - however water would be good

As several of us are already neck deep in large chargers, I will leave the size alone but maybe make a no bushing rule
 
i think the NADM rules are great - I will look at blending the 2.6-2.8 along with Scheids rules which are pretty comprehensive

I dotn want to see non-oem 1 ton or larger transfer cases either.

this could/will be a fun class next year

ryan - a few of us (myslef included) are already runnin a 2.8 charger, and in my case if I can get my VE IP to be consistant - I should be back in the running with the duramaxes - and if not then I will be very large P-pumped by spring
 
I think the rules should follow a standardization, such as the NADM or so. Maybe not use the complete rules next year but gently modify your class rules to the NADM rules over a period of a few years or so.
 
You'll Have a better shot at getting Front weights than water in the Pro street class, been tried every year and shut down every time " move up to the Modified class" seems to come to mind.

What do others think of the Hanging weight up front?, I know Ken you don believe it makes any difference correct?


Thanks
 
I say allow the hanging weights, you dont need water unless you are running bigger then 3.0+, i dont run it on my 3.0 truck
 
Ken- First off...Honestly, I think you should head south and watch a few pulls in the 2.6 and 2.8" class your self. I have been to MANY!!!! and I am amazed every time at what even the 2.6's are putting out. My honest opinion is that 90% of those trucks would easily outpull our pro-street trucks.

NOW- if we could have a class up here that follows the same rules as say the 2.6" class that has most of the same rules thru the midwest and east at least it will give us a chance to be comparable to them.

Here are my main concerns (things that need changed with pro-street)

1) Turbo size is WAY to big...cut them back to a 2.6" or jump to Pro-Mod
2) The use of hanging weights should be allowed (any reg-cab like your self is greatly going to benifit from having 500lbs more out front then the quad cab behind you or a head of you.
3) MUST run a factory type Reese Hitch (some of the hitches in the class look like they are running Super Mod!!!!)
4) NO WATER INJECTION.....there is no reason for it. And you yourself should realize that if your air/water IC is working correctly!
5)Drop the weight Limit down to 8000lbs with a NO % over rule (Matches the classes down south)
6) AIR SHUT OFF'S ARE MANDITORY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I still can't believe this wasn't made totally manditory for the 2008 season let alone this season!

7) Last but not least...if you don't like these rules....
Jump up to the Pro-Mod class!!!!!!

As far as Pro-Mod goes, I think its headed in the right direction for the big class up here. I have opened my eye's in the last two years though and honestly think that we should get away from the Twin chargers and just go with an unlimited single rule but that is just my view and doesn't reflect anyone elses opinion in the class.

I probably won't have a truck out next year again (my brother will in pro-mod) but I won't. If things where to change into follow the rules of down south for Pro-street I would honestly consider running my dually with a major pump mod and a 2.6 charger!!! as I have the urge to come back out but right now there just isn't anything I see worth my while to build for!

RyanB
 
DISTURBED said:
I say allow the hanging weights, you dont need water unless you are running bigger then 3.0+, i dont run it on my 3.0 truck
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Heck I don't run it on my 3.4 charger. I think it will be a HUGE stink... Well it would with guys that travel and know whats going on if you allow water but no weights! Weights is a must if you ask me.
 
MMM - it is more that both of our associations have told me no hangin weights and no hood stacks - they want a definitive lookin difference between promod n prostreet here

I dont propose water but most of my class members want it so I know it will be a subject - and yes both associaitons do not want it in the class - personally i dont beleive it is necessary either - so this will be a dead issue - but as class rep - I do have to listen at the very least to any concerns

As to shutoffs many of us ran em this year - and next year everyone will have to - thats also a directive from the two associations

hitches -even mine is a reese hitch - just adjustable at the rear- not sure whose hitch you saw Ryan

but anyways - this is not the place to discuss "what rules" or why, they should or shouldnt be in place - that is for the meeting that will take place in late October - and if anyone who wishes to play next year in either of our two associations wishes to attend then by all means - send me your contact info so you can be included and invited.

right now all I am lookin for is commonality between all of the variosu rules various sanctioning bodies are using

at this time i beleive i have consolidated the best of the 5-6 rules sets out there so we will see where it leads

Ryan - I do beleive a weight reduction to 8000 is a good idea and the 1% rule is gonna git trashed - too many issues this year
also the rules I will be proposing will be almost identical to 2.8 so git busy n build your truck
 
I believe there where two trucks with hitches like I described and one was on the Diesel Doc truck.

From what I have heard in the past since the class started is that they always had an issue with the hanging weights but the pro-street class isn't like the circuit stock class gasser class...actually its more along the lines of the Super Stock gassers and they have the weights out front. I think the weights should be pushed harder than ever.

My big problem is still the turbo rule on the size. You say you are trying to find some mommonality between the rules south of the border and up here and the major thing thats different and you don't want to see changed is the charger!!!!! Its BS if you ask me.

If you want to put on an even better show, lower the turbo down, allow hanging weights and bump the hitch height up to that 26" mark from 22".

There is enough of a difference between the two classes that the weights won't be a big deal...anyway, how many pulls do the Mods and pro-street pull at the same pull??? 1 or maybe 2

I personally think that both classes should come together and figure out where we want this to be in the next 5 years and come in with a set of rules that are already in place down south and see what everyone says. If you look at the Pro-mod rules and the 3" class in the USA you will see that they are identical except that we allow twins which next year most of the trucks will probably only be running a single anyway...most people up here think that twins and water are must haves but after seeing what the guys down south are doing its making us all open our eye's.

Ryan
 
2Tone12V said:
Heck I don't run it on my 3.4 charger. I think it will be a HUGE stink... Well it would with guys that travel and know whats going on if you allow water but no weights! Weights is a must if you ask me.
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Check the math, conversion is 25.4mm/inch.
 
we are already at 24" hitch height and that was a battle - and I have been told no 26" as that is promod height

I do beleive none of us are over the 2.8 turbo size at the moment so to say it will be a 2.8 class is easy at the moment

I'd love to hang 2800 lbs out front (thats how lite my truck is stock) but dont see it happening
 
seeker1056 said:
hitches -even mine is a reese hitch - just adjustable at the rear- not sure whose hitch you saw Ryan
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After looking at your photobucket pics on your other post I am having a hard time figuring out how this is anywhere close to a reese style hitch? any other pics or can you explain it a little better for me?


Ryan
 
I lengthened the reciever, and put braces and an adjuster on it - hell it even still has the reese sticker on the main tube lol
 
I have to agree with the Ryan on the turbo size limit. 2.9 limit is insane. All it is gonna take is some one with enough money to build a truck that will be way out of the rest of our trucks classes. Heck if i had another 20g's and built my duramax to 2.8 with a full built motor and some all season axles it would be a monster, but I dont have the money so I will stick to being competitive with my stock block and turbo.
 
seeker1056 said:
I lengthened the reciever, and put braces and an adjuster on it - hell it even still has the reese sticker on the main tube lol
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Hey Ken- Was up at Elmvale today checking out the pull. Had a look under your truck and I can't figure out how in the world you can even call that a reese style hitch...honestly, I didn't see one part on it that even looked like anything factory made.

Anyway, good pull...truck is getting better and so is the class!!!! After seeing both classes run today and talking to a bunch of different people about the two classes I really think everyone is going to have to come together and figure out where we want pulling up here in Ontario to go....My self and 3 others I talked to today seemed to think it is going in the right direction but could take a major U-Turn for the worse if something doesn't happen soon.

Personally my self I think we need a 2.6 class with rules similar to pro-street 2 or 3 years ago that made it easy for anyone to get into (entry level class) and 2.6" equals a 66mm charger which is a large yet very streetable charger!!! Have stock style hitches in the class with no mods to them and that sort of thing.

For everyone else...jump up into Pro-mod hanging weights, having water and all the other stuff. Most are there right now as far as saftey and power goes anyway!

Honestly I think this is the only fair way to go about it all and will help grow the classes instead of it going back wards like it easily could!

RyanB
 
You chaps need to cipher a way to allow average blokes to be competitive in an entry class, as stated above... grass roots bring in the toonies, and help the sport to grow - and that's what we all want.
 
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