Single vs. Double ladder bars.

[roachie]

So then why does everyone hang weight(when aloud) on the front of the truck rather then just putting it in the bed? based on what you just said to me it would make more sense to put the weight in the bed then run a set of short bars that will load the tires even more. I would think that would give you the most traction to the back tires to get your ground speed up out of the hole. But why would you want to do that with a 4wd truck when you have all 4 pulling. I see no problem with a setup that transfers weight to the back if your pulling with a 2wd but a 4wd just doesn't make any sense to me.

Also if the weight transfer is good why doesn't everyone who builds a dedicated puller get a single cab long bed? since it has a shorter wheelbase it would be less likely to resist weight transfer as apposed to any of the other body styles that have a longer wheelbase witch will try to resist weight transfer?

Short vs. long wheelbase is a separate issue that has 2 schools of thought.
A short truck can hang 2k on the front, a long wheel base may only get 500-800.

You also need to remember that the frames on these trucks arent perfect. Short bars are going to more stress on the frame and try to bend it.

And also you do want the rear of the truck doing more work seeing as it has the bigger axle.

 

[Rods]

I don't understand the whole theory that you guys are talking about, but these videos are all the proof I need. The Reedsville hook lifted the front of my truck badly, watch it squat at the end of the run....looks like about 3" or better. The Fayette video is after installing my bars, front end stays flat. My bars are 78"+heim joints.

Reedsville - stock suspension up front

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz221hfNGOU

Fayette - 2" leveling kit is on the front.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPwOiZ0ssB4

No theory its pretty simple and only applies to the ones who want the best setup and mayb not all the looks . I'v tried both setups 2 bars 4 bars long and short , I'll stick with what I got its proved itself already

In both vids the front is still pretty high , the back may not b squatted but the front is still lifting alot

Also u got 2 different angles the first is up high the next is level witch will tend to conflict eye judgement

Watch my truck in the vid section (hodgenville) I have no hanging weights I do have 300lbs in the front under the bumper there is not much lift and the truck only weighed 7500 in a 8500 class

 

[black4x4]

Short vs. long wheelbase is a separate issue that has 2 schools of thought.
A short truck can hang 2k on the front, a long wheel base may only get 500-800.

You also need to remember that the frames on these trucks arent perfect. Short bars are going to more stress on the frame and try to bend it.

And also you do want the rear of the truck doing more work seeing as it has the bigger axle.

weight transfer was brought up, and wheelbase affects it so I brought it up.

On the frame issue why not take the time to do some boxing and fish plating to strengthen the frame up some in the area were your mounts are going.

 

[roachie]

Boxing is good till a point. If the frame is to stiff it will actually hurt your distance.

I would think that long bars with blocks on the axle would make the frame stronger by boxing it in, kinda.

 

[cummins724]

No theory its pretty simple and only applies to the ones who want the best setup and mayb not all the looks . I'v tried both setups 2 bars 4 bars long and short , I'll stick with what I got its proved itself already

In both vids the front is still pretty high , the back may not b squatted but the front is still lifting alot

Also u got 2 different angles the first is up high the next is level witch will tend to conflict eye judgement

Watch my truck in the vid section (hodgenville) I have no hanging weights I do have 300lbs in the front under the bumper there is not much lift and the truck only weighed 7500 in a 8500 class

I'm not taking sides here, just saying that the long bars are working great for me. I know its hard to judge by the second video, but I'm sure that it didn't lift nearly as much as the Reedsville video. My bars are so parellel to the frame that It is not lifting, just planting the rear....thats my point.