Spray on the sledpulling track YES or NO

Spray on the sledpulling track YES or NO

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Sting this isn't a TS thread, try to keep up.


Which nitrous company actually calls their systems, CHEATER!?!?!?!?!?


I did run into it once in truck pulling, around Stings area, dude took a new Ford, 5.0 ltr, flogged it with nitrous and actually ran with 12 vs when we were at 300 HP.
Of course, he turned his rear diff straight up at the end of the track but it did run good-for 12 seconds!!!LMAO.

I also hear all the time that if you are winning you are cheating. Thats BS I had an open hood policy, and actually told people to take a measuring tape and a camera underneath my truck. Copy anything they wanted. I even TOLD them what gear I was using, ETC.

So cheat all you want, it is only hurting the sport.But don't complain when you get a vacation.
 
Why can't you drive down the street with weight hanging??? Not really different than a super big and heavy front bumper...
 
Bosshawg600 said:
My logical reasons for not allowing Nitrous.....

1) there wont be any classes. if you throw Nawz in the mix, turbo size wont matter. you can have a guy with a 62mm charger spraying Banks amout into the motor and having the same amout of Dyno HP as a 3.0 charger truck on fuel only.

1. Yes I can see your point on this. This is the only logical one out of this list.

2) tech would be painfully long! Checking turbos is long enough, now you want to go over an entire wet or dry system? Measureing jet sizes, solinoid sizes, and all that will take FOREVER!!!!

2. Just not put a limit on it. Do they have limits on the amount of water going into the engine?

3) insurance companies dont like drugs. Its hard enough to get insurance for a pull, and if you say that you are allowing Nitrous in a pull....nobody is going to cover the event!

3. I doubt this will even make a difference nor do they ask.

4)If nitrous is allowed, the rule sheet on that alnoe will be so long that most people wont be able to follow it. The rules in pulling is long eoung, most people dont want more rules.

4. You already posted this #2

5) Running fuel only keeps cost down. Its hard enough to build a motor, chassis, and drivetrain to hold fuel only HP that building for fuel and Spary would skyrocket the cost of pulling. Its not like drag racing....we are dragging 3x,xxxlbs down the track with us!

5. If you are *****ing about cost you dont need to build anything to deal with motorsports. Any hobby is expensive if you are hardcore enough.

6) Sled pulling is deeply rooted in our coulture. pulling has been around A LOT longer than drag racing, and we have gone this long with out spary and many guys condem the thought of it. Just try telling a Pro Stock tractor driver he needs to spray his tractor!

6. What does this have to do with anything. Nothing stays the same. Also how can you say sled pulling has been around alot longer. I am sure people where racing horse and bugs back in the day. One has not been around longer than the other.


I guess thats enough for now. Thats just my hunble openion though......
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see above.
 
Bosshawg600 said:
Ill give ya that one...its kinda funny.

But..............
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I can't believe you pulled that picture out for this thread:hehe::hehe::hehe:

Chris
 
Kman9090 said:
"Run what ya brung" Last I heard that wasn't a class we are limited to certain things to make it fair. Such as turbo size welcome to diesel sled pulling

"been around this stuff for years" Never heard of you? Can think of alot of guys that have expecially guys like sledpuller. Not saying I have been around it for years but never heard or seen your truck?

"slowly making it's way to diesels" again you post nothing what you know diesel perfromance stuff has boomed and getting to be more popular than anything gas on the sledpulling track. Again welcome to diesel sledpulling!

"Always be Haters" Diesel sled pull has never allowed nitrous. You don't see any tractor guys running it and I don't even hear of many if any gas guys running it but maybe I don't know for certain. As for most the guys that hook to the sled say Nitrous does not belong on the sled pulling track! Welcome to Sled pulling I hope you have fun! :rockwoot:
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Just because you havent heard of me means I havent been doing this for along time. I never said it was all sled pulling. I come from a big back ground in pulling. I co-own a Diesel/Gas performance shop. I am crew cheif/tuner on nail-it pulling truck of Berry Bowers(red 03 duramax). Again you post only personal opinion and not actually and good reason why not to use it.
 
98xtremcummins said:
Why can't you drive down the street with weight hanging??? Not really different than a super big and heavy front bumper...
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I would venture to say that before a vehicle is available, they are "teched" to meet a federal guidline so yes it might be the same as having a heavy front bumber, it is not the same. Its not about the weight. You have to have a front bumper that is mounted to the frame which also meets some sorta requirments or standards. When Tom Dick and Harry build a weight bracket with chicken spit welds, it would not be safe. On the pulling track you would get dq'ed if the weights come loose, at 70 mph down the road, you could imagine how that could go.
 
Brad I guess you dont know as much as you think because every point has been a problem at all most every pull. And every puller has agreed with this points in some instance....so.......
 
ILLINOISRAM said:
I would venture to say that before a vehicle is available, they are "teched" to meet a federal guidline so yes it might be the same as having a heavy front bumber, it is not the same. Its not about the weight. You have to have a front bumper that is mounted to the frame which also meets some sorta requirments or standards. When Tom Dick and Harry build a weight bracket with chicken spit welds, it would not be safe. On the pulling track you would get dq'ed if the weights come loose, at 70 mph down the road, you could imagine how that could go.
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SledPuller21 said:
So what get over it, if he gets caught ok, if not fine.
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You forgot....................It's "legal" until you get caught :eek::hehe:
 
Bosshawg600 said:
Brad I guess you dont know as much as you think because every point has been a problem at all most every pull. And every puller has agreed with this points in some instance....so.......
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Well I only know what I know. I am not following you on your points? Maybe you can teach me something on the track one of these days. Every day that I learn something new my goal is complete.
 
BradJ said:
I bet you cannot give me a logical reason.
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Our pulling rules are not set up for nitrous.

In drag racing, the field is split into different brackets based on times. It doesn't matter how much horsepower you have, or how you have it. It just matters how quickly you can get to the other side. This is how they stay competitive.

In sled pulling, our classes are set up around horsepower. We set these classes up by limiting the amount of air (i.e. turbo size). By allowing nitrous, turbo size no longer means anything, and the classes won't be broken up by horsepower. So, the fields won't be competitive.

There is nothing wrong with using nitrous; but the rules need to change to regulate how much, whether it is by jet size, number of jets or what, it needs to be limited. So, for this discussion, I say no because the rules are not set up for it.

H2O and Nitrous may both be power adders, but show me someone who has the ability to gain 600 horsepower with water? There are a few guys adding that much if not more with nitrous. So, I say they are different. Water is usually added to cooler down the egt's. It adds some horsepower, but the importance of the water is for cooling down the egt's on a rich mixture.


Thoughts?
 
BradJ said:
J Again you post only personal opinion and not actually and good reason why not to use it.
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I'll ask you that question right back- you have only posted a personal reason it should be allowed?
Why should nitrous be allowed?

Because Brad j thinks it should. Cause he aint askeered of it.

So does anyone have a GOOD reason to allow it? No, they don't.
 
Sleddy

No, I agree its not needed in a turbo limited class(2.6 2.8 3.0 or whatever). There I said it. I agree with YOU. But there is a lot of other cheating going on but if its not nos then its not cheating. I'm just not sure why it blows motors up like everyone seems to think. My stock motor must of had 40 bottles run through it, 20 gallons of CNG and looked like new when I pulled it apart. I can assure you i'm no Einstein so why did mine old up? He## I just put NOS on a cub cadet puller because someone told me it would blow the head off. Guess what it didn't and run up with the alky tractors! It sure was funny. Jeff
 
You'll come to find out, that when most people sober up, they agree with me.:bow::thankyou2:

In my position, I just don't see a mob of nitrous wanauseit types begging me to implement it in the rules.

Therefore, I have no logical reason to open it up.
 
An open Nitrous class maybe an idea just don't hear many guys talking about it.
 
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Sledpuller said:
I'll ask you that question right back- you have only posted a personal reason it should be allowed?
Why should nitrous be allowed?

Because Brad j thinks it should. Cause he aint askeered of it.

So does anyone have a GOOD reason to allow it? No, they don't.
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So that is your logical answer? That you dont have one and try to wonder why someone would want to use it? This proves my point that you have no good answer nor does anybody else.

The only reason I have heard that actually sounds good to me is that in a turbo size limit class, it will start to defeat the purpose if you dont limit them. I guess all the guys will have to stick to there hidden "cheater" kit.
 
Son, my best advice to you, is dry behind your ears, and come back when you have some experience to back up your ramblings.
 
Sledpuller said:
Son, my best advice to you, is dry behind your ears, and come back when you have some experience to back up your ramblings.
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LOL, now thats funny. Son, LOL. I guess you cant handle your theories being bumped. I cant blame you for not wanting to spend more money to try and keep up like everyone is so scared about.
 
Sledpuller said:
You'll come to find out, that when most people sober up, they agree with me.:bow::thankyou2:

In my position, I just don't see a mob of nitrous wanauseit types begging me to implement it in the rules.

Therefore, I have no logical reason to open it up.
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Also since I have never heard of you or what you pull. Tell me some more about you since you are going to school me.
 
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