Street class with a claimer rule?

This is stupid and will never work. Say you don't let your turbo be claimed. What happens? Lose your points? Lose 1st place? Big deal. Just go to the next pull the next night. Pulling has always been a big $$$ sport, and your not going to change that.
 
The only thing stupid is not doing anything. Your questions were addressed in previous posts. If you have a better suggestion post it up.
 
Here is a crazy thought. Instead of turbo, make it a drivers, or pullers class. Make a spec size tire, make it little bitty, and this will make big hp inconsequential. Like the same tire that came on a first gen, and single rear tires, , if it’s a street dually pull one wheel off.

This would make it more about skill then HP
I’m not a puller so this might not work for reasons I don’t understand , but tell me why ,
 
On the turbo claimer rule, here is another thought, the reason, I like this, is it could transfer in to drag racing as well. The simple inducer limit is not enough. This is similar to the Carburetors in Comp, a stock appearing 750 so called econo carburetor can cost many thousands of dollars.



Pick a turbo frame that is common, and available to everyone, same compressor housing, same exhaust housing outlet. This is similar to the ASA heads in sprint car. In fact, get possibly Borg Warner to provide this out of the box turbo with its own part number. Anodize the compressor housing, and allow no removal of this anodizing.

All of these will be available only as a complete turbo. Now let the turbo guys go nuts with them, inside, do anything you want, but do not machine the anodizing off.

This turbo must have a serial number deeply engraved in the compressor housing, exhaust, and center housing. This limited motorsports turbo and its corresponding serial number will be documented, and these numbers will be available to sanction bodies.

Make the anodizing a very unusual,
Since the mounting parts both inlet, and outlets are exactly the same, they can be interchanged.


if anyone wants to protest, they can exchange their running turbo, off their truck for say $ 250, to $ 500.
They are interchangeable on the trucks, so it’s not hard to install the traded turbo on the other trucks.


One other part to this rule to this, and important, if the person suspects the other trucks turbo is damaged , the person challenged has the right to ask the sanction body officials to draw three separate randomly draw competitor at the event to inspect the turbo.



This would make a unified turbo for several classes, both pulling and drag racing.
Respectfully submitted as a non puller
 
COMP461 said:
Make a spec size tire, make it little bitty, and this will make big hp inconsequential.
I’m not a puller so this might not work for reasons I don’t understand , but tell me why ,
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I have watched a Mod gasser trash class try this for a few years now.

They started at 12 trucks in the class, and are down to 4.

I don't think tires would be a good thing to limit.
 
Yeah without a good set of tires ur not getting anywhere! In that case it would proably be the guy with the least amount of hp that didnt break traction winning!
 
Rules are already posted for 09. I don't see it happening.

We need more input to get changes made.
 
a single set turbo wouldnt be too bad but if you think about it unless your going to do something crazy with exotic metals, your all still limited to 2.6, 2.8, 3.0 inches......and ive been pricing turbos from everywhere for a while and from what im seeing there is no SUPER SPECIAL BEST EVER GONNA WHIP EVERYBODY turbo......cause everyone would have it......



if your a guy like me i would claim your engine/turbo and destroy it or sell it to someone else for alot higher price that didnt pull with us.......dont have to worry about it beating me again........
 
Still say its a bad idea and will never fly. No way you are going to get every puller to agree to it. Sounds like a good way to lose a lot of pullers if you ask me. I dont see it helping the sport in any way. Would hurt it more than anything IMHO. If you keep getting beat, you obviously are not doing something right or need to put more money into your setup. I get beat all the time but I dont go around whining saying "oh im gonna take your turbo cuz you always beat me" Thats BS. If your in it to win and for the money, buy bigger better parts till your on top or dont whine.
 
I pull my truck once or twice a year. I think the best i have done was 7th place in a stock turbo class. Most of the time i am in a run what you brung class though, and I end up getting close to last.

This does not stop me from wanting to pull though! If you like to pull, it doesent matter if you are winning. It is nice to be competitive, but you have to start out somewhere! It is an addiction and i have never known someone who loved the sport to quit because of not being able to win...

If you want to pull, and you want to win, you will have to spend some money, and put a lot of time into your truck. If you love the sport like most of us, then you will keep pulling and try and make your truck better all the time.

This IS a competitive sport! Which means someone is always going to be first, and someone is always going to be last. If you wont pull because you are afraid of getting beat, then its probably not the sport for you anyways. If I had the money, I would pull my truck every weekend just how it sits just because i love to pull, but i cant afford it so i mainly watch. If i ever do get up to pulling my truck though, I am not going to let it stop me that it is going to take some time to get it close to the top. Its just part of the sport.
 
LOGANSTANFORTH said:
if your a guy like me i would claim your engine/turbo and destroy it or sell it to someone else for alot higher price that didnt pull with us.......dont have to worry about it beating me again........
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Your missing the point. If there is a 1000 dollar claim on turbos, then no one is really gonna want to spend 2000 or 2500 bucks on a turbo. Most would probably spend UP TO 1,250 on their turbo. so your gonna claim a turbo for 1000 bucks that is probably worth only about 1000 bucks. And you probably wouldn't get your money back out of it if you did claim it. From what i quoted you seem more like a PEST than a competitor. I mean, claim someones engine or turbo to destroy it? Why would that even cross your mind?

Oh, and i wholly agree with what cummins driver said.
 
Obviously by some of the posts there are a lot of guys that don't understand the spirit of a claimer rule. For those that think I'm whining, when you've hooked as many times as I have, broke as many parts or spent as much money you may learn to understand. I don't want this rule for me. Hell I hooked 2.8 class last year. I will drop to 2.6 for next year. :hehe:

Oh I forgot the mention. My turbos didn't cost me a dime.:rockwoot:
 
mech2161 said:
Obviously by some of the posts there are a lot of guys that don't understand the spirit of a claimer rule. For those that think I'm whining, when you've hooked as many times as I have, broke as many parts or spent as much money you may learn to understand. I don't want this rule for me. Hell I hooked 2.8 class last year. I will drop to 2.6 for next year. :hehe:

Oh I forgot the mention. My turbos didn't cost me a dime.:rockwoot:
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As stated. Its a competitive sport. Just like racing. You spend money you break stuff. People have better parts than others. That comes with the sport. It doesnt matter how many times you have pulled. You knew going in to the sport it was going to cost money, you were going to break stuff and you are going to win some and lose some. If that rule ever got put in, I guarantee the sport will lose a lot of competitors, myself included. Like I said if you are mad about someone beating you all the time, its time to put some more money into it, tune it better, or give up I guess. Why have it be a competitive sport and keep track of how far each person pulls if we are going to do all that stuff to make it all even? If someone has better stuff than me and beats me all the time, I guess I just need to up my game.
 
Vefreak said:
Your missing the point. If there is a 1000 dollar claim on turbos, then no one is really gonna want to spend 2000 or 2500 bucks on a turbo. Most would probably spend UP TO 1,250 on their turbo. so your gonna claim a turbo for 1000 bucks that is probably worth only about 1000 bucks. And you probably wouldn't get your money back out of it if you did claim it. From what i quoted you seem more like a PEST than a competitor. I mean, claim someones engine or turbo to destroy it? Why would that even cross your mind?

Oh, and i wholly agree with what cummins driver said.
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Why would it even cross your mind to claim someone turbo or parts? Thats sounds like a pest to me. Oh your better than me so im gonna take your turbo cuz I cant figure out how to win by myself. C'mon man.
 
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