Water Injection????

I think it should be allowed in 3.0 and up and thats it!



Oh and if need be, I can get the water donated! Kinda like a sponsorship of sorts....
 
Auctualy My Dad is a Instalation Specialist for a Large Non-Electric Water softener company, Im sure the could do some National Sponsorship!
 
Allow it! I have melted mine down twice this year, due to extreme EGTs
 
07dodge said:
Allow it! I have melted mine down twice this year, due to extreme EGTs
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Maybe you should turn down the wick some? I could melt mine down too, look at my avatar pic, those were 2100 degree EGT's. There are many guys with CR's that are burning them down, but there are some that are staying together just fine too.
 
water/meth is an engine saver not neccesarily a power adder,yes a little but not enough to wine about!!!! so any class should be able to run it. you can buy it for your daily rig let it go. yes i know you can buy nitrous too but it is illegall on the street do there you go.
 
Who cares about the methanol? If somebody wants to run combustibles across the intake valves on a compression ignition engine, let them be, lol.

Now what surprises me, is with people dissecting water/methanol percentages to this degree, why hasn't anyone mentioned pump lube? Are you going to screen the water to see what percentage of pump lube was added for the guys running a haldex/barnes hydraulic pump for the water after you screen for methanol, or nitromethane?

:D

Also, the effectiveness of water is determined by the charge air temps that exist without the water. If a truck is well intercooled then water isn't a big deal at all. If a truck is not well intercooled, or intercooled at all, then water becomes a much bigger deal altogether.

As for the ones running a bunch of methanol, just let natural selection run its course on that.
 
Charles said:
Who cares about the methanol? If somebody wants to run combustibles across the intake valves on a compression ignition engine, let them be, lol.

Now what surprises me, is with people dissecting water/methanol percentages to this degree, why hasn't anyone mentioned pump lube? Are you going to screen the water to see what percentage of pump lube was added for the guys running a haldex/barnes hydraulic pump for the water after you screen for methanol, or nitromethane?

:D

Also, the effectiveness of water is determined by the charge air temps that exist without the water. If a truck is well intercooled then water isn't a big deal at all. If a truck is not well intercooled, or intercooled at all, then water becomes a much bigger deal altogether.

As for the ones running a bunch of methanol, just let natural selection run its course on that.
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Maximum power will be netted by those who can aftercool to the lowest degree and run without water. Wet air is less dense than dry air.

However, there will always be a point were piston crown temps run away, and the only way to maintain that same power level is to cool with water.

I say let them run water or whatever they want to put in the tank on anything above work-stock.

Natural selection will weed out the meth.
 
Micheal Tomac said:
Water is a "crutch" like propane and nitrous.
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Some people seem to limp themselves along rather nicely on crutches...

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wes, stock trucks are melting because of long hot egt's, there is no variable for a stock truck like timing or pressure, rather just the fact these cr trucks arent built as strong as a 12v or older 24v. allow it, hell everything else is aloowed besides nitrous I say keep that out thats fine but allow water.
 
outlaw99 said:
wes, stock trucks are melting because of long hot egt's, there is no variable for a stock truck like timing or pressure, rather just the fact these cr trucks arent built as strong as a 12v or older 24v. allow it, hell everything else is aloowed besides nitrous I say keep that out thats fine but allow water.
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What are long hot egts? How hot and how long?

Ive got two years of hard pulling in on the same engine. Water is not needed in a 2.6 classes. Common Rails do not need it.
 
RAWdiesel said:
I think you should look else where as to why your melting. What type of timing and pressures you running?
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I'd agree. Since my rebuild, I've not had an issue other than a cracked head 3yrs later which is inevitable anyway..... my truck has seen some heat !! There's been several times I've hot lapped up to 3 times ( not real wise though) Water might have helped a little in keeping the heat at bay but, IMO it's not necessary. Paying attention to programming variables makes a whole lot of difference.

I also drag race and apparently it's not as much as concern with others who drag as this thread is all sled pullers. If it's allowed for you guys, provisions need to be in place for water testing at the scales after your pulls. That or have classes that allow it and others that don't... the easier route
 
I mean like 1600 deg. for a couple seconds... it seems the older 24v and 12v could hold 2000* for longer than we can 1600? maybe im wrong not sure, but I would love to be able to use water on my truck...lol it gets hot, maybe its my mp8?
 
My truck was typically at 1600* by the 1/8th so I could only imagine what the cylinder temps were. I always keep an eye on my water temp to try and gauge what's going on there.

Actually, I think CR's handle heat better than the older trucks do. They were built to run hotter. 1400* sustained on a stock truck is normal where on a 24v, that is pushing it. This is in a stock scenario though where defueling helps avoid issue
 
Im pushing over 1800* during runs down the track. And thats 40-50 pulls on it last year, and nearing 40 for this year and counting, same motor. CRs take heat fairly well.

Like Triton said, you need to look at your programming, your rail pressure gauge and what level your running the timing at. Trucks are melting down due to something wrong.
 
When you keep saying timing I imagine you are talking about the timing on the boxes correct? I have my timing setup as bob told me to run it. on 3 for large aftermarket injectors which is less timing than stock I believe. Now I havent melted this new motor down but I only have 2 hooks and maybe 500 miles on it. I did however have a blown headgaket. the way it looks the heat in the cylinder had to be hot* hot*... Idk. what boxes are you running wes, triton, should I ditch the mp8?
 
With the wright combo of water/meth and the % its activated one gain make some HP local guy here with a 03 CR made an extra 90+ hp with the boost juice they played with the % on the controller this was on dumbars dyno at TS
 
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