Will 2.8" Stay Around For Years To Come?

[Signature600]

So how long would it take?? Would it be worth it to get paid??

Chris

 

[SmokeShow]

I don't think it'd be too bad on the DMax with the bigger chargers. Most of the aftermarket chargers for the Dmax sit up a fair amount higher than the stocker and the comp. cover can be accessed pretty easily. 30min. tops I'd say.


Bean, while it might take 10g or so to go open driveline, how much do you think you'd get for your high-dollar stuff you have in there now? The trans and clutch would should pay for a clutch can or clutch, then you buy the other. The transfer case should buy a reverser or half of a drop box. I'd say you'd be alright with your front end for at least a good while. Otherwise, you could sell it and get about half way there on a big front end. Sell the rear end with stock parts or with the big shafts and spool and pay for a healthy rockwell. I doubt the difference in parts you could sell, versus big driveline parts would be more than $5-7.5K and that's buying new. I've found clutch can/reverser/dropbox set used for $3500. You could certainly sell your things and pay for that stuff I'd imagine unless you gave your stuff away. LOL

I understand the part about not wanting to necessarily be in the class though.

 

[Convicted1]

Well I've been saying for the past few months that 2.6" has gotten out of hand...

The idea of getting rid of the stepped covers and bushings is awesome, but I agree a pain to tech. It could be done with ONLY the top 3 who take money or whatever.

2Tone12V - At first I kinda thought you were full of yourself when we were goin' back and forth in the NADM thread about water, but I've been carefully reading alot of your posts and agree with ALOT of what you have to say.

Outlaw - You and I think want the same thing, which is a class that allows for a smaller jump from WS than the current jump to 2.6". You're going about it the wrong way though. Attacking these guys isn't going to get your point across.

We need to get this 2.8" class thread back on track... It's been hijacked for a "what should be done with the 2.6" class" debate.

If you want to argue the benefits and downfalls of limiting chargers in 2.6" why not do it in the other thread thats already been started? Let the 2.8" guys straighten their stuff out here.

Here's the link for simplicity...

Stepped Covers and Bushings in 2.6 or not? - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together

Obviously I started the thread about 2.6" chargers and would like to have some more meaningful debate in there... Theres been some AWESOME ideas over here about it, but not much more than simple banter in the other thread.

 

[GOT-Torque]

How about the 2.8" class gets a rule change to allow any type of rearend but remain factory 1 ton or less drivetrain for the rest? (transmission, t-case, and front axle)

This would allow the hot 2.8 trucks to upgrade the rear to something that won't break and also prevent them from stepping down to 2.6.

Also, I think the payouts for 2.8" should be alot larger and the 2.6" alot smaller. I think these changes would make more of the hot 2.6 trucks make the jump to 2.8.

And, I think everyone in the 2.6" class should get a nice purple ribbon that says "I competed in the truck pull" to keep them from *****'n.

 

[lightsOUT]

How about the 2.8" class gets a rule change to allow any type of rearend but remain factory 1 ton or less drivetrain for the rest? (transmission, t-case, and front axle)

This would allow the hot 2.8 trucks to upgrade the rear to something that won't break and also prevent them from stepping down to 2.6.

Also, I think the payouts for 2.8" should be alot larger and the 2.6" alot smaller. I think these changes would make more of the hot 2.6 trucks make the jump to 2.8.

And, I think everyone in the 2.6" class should get a nice purple ribbon that says "I competed in the truck pull" to keep them from *****'n.

I'm sorry but I cannot agree with the rear end idea you have. That will be the begining of the end IMO. I'd give it 3 seasons tops before it finally just gave in and went open driveline.

 

[97' CTD]

I AM SO SICK OF ALL THIS GRAB ASSIN WHINING ABOUT 2.6". THE TITLE HAS TO DO WITH 2.8" NOTHING TO DO WITH 2.6" SO STFU I HOPE IF THE 2.6" TALK CONTINUES IN THIS THREAD THEY CLOSE IT! IM SO GLAD IM MOVING UP A CLASS PISS ON THIS.
Brandon

 

[bdp]

IMO having to fight the driveline is part of what makes it challenging. Yes it does get old and expensive but 1. it puts a challenge in the sport with making custom parts and new ideas to keep stock stuff alive, 2. as far as a spector goes what would you rather see- trucks on the absolute edge of breaking something every pull, see some of them break with loud bang rattles and explosions- or see every truck in the class boringly get down the track w/o incedent.

I know if I am watching I like to see carnage. Hell even my own carnage makes me proud at times.

One other thing that applies to me but I dont know how many others in 2.8, I still drive mine ALL the time on the street. Open driveline would force me to either go 2.6 to keep it streetable or make it a usless vehichle other then once a week for 30 seconds.

 

[bdp]

I AM SO SICK OF ALL THIS GRAB ASSIN WHINING ABOUT 2.6". THE TITLE HAS TO DO WITH 2.8" NOTHING TO DO WITH 2.6" SO STFU I HOPE IF THE 2.6" TALK CONTINUES IN THIS THREAD THEY CLOSE IT! IM SO GLAD IM MOVING UP A CLASS PISS ON THIS.
Brandon

So how do you really feel Brandon? LOL

Seriously though, think about it this thread HAS to discuss 2.6 cause if 2.8 goes away it will be as a direct result of the rules from 2.6. You cant have this discussion without talking about how close 2.6 is to 2.8. IMO anyways.

 

[97' CTD]

So how do you really feel Brandon? LOL

Seriously though, think about it this thread HAS to discuss 2.6 cause if 2.8 goes away it will be as a direct result of the rules from 2.6. You cant have this discussion without talking about how close 2.6 is to 2.8. IMO anyways.

LOL I dont even want to hear 2.6" LOL
Brandon

 

[ILLINOISRAM]

I personally liked the schied rules. True the top three trucks were Haisley built 2.8 trucks but still it was a good class. I made it to the finals with a hot street driven 2.8 charger bushed to 2.6 and still got my ass handed to me. But i drove mine to work today. I say leave stuff alone.

Tim

 

[01PPUMP]

I personally liked the schied rules. True the top three trucks were Haisley built 2.8 trucks but still it was a good class.

Tim

I got 3rd at Scheid and pulled 2.6 all year and I built my truck. Northeast Diesel Service(me)built my own ppump and injs. Not Scheid or Haisleys.

 

[2Tone12V]

I got 3rd at Scheid and pulled 2.6 all year and I built my truck. Northeast Diesel Service(me)built my own ppump and injs. Not Scheid or Haisleys.

That's cause you guys have p pumps. Gotta change stuff up for the cry baby common rail guys. Allowed dual pumps. Still couldn't keep up. Now they HAVE to have water to "stay together". Make all common rails pull workstck would shut alot of it up.

 

[outlaw99]

allowed dual pumps and couldnt keep up.... I think you need to look at the results again bud... top 3 were 2.8 trucks with bushings that always pull 2.8 everywhere else. wouldve been all cr in the top 4 if they wouldnt have bumped down....

 

[kino_fab]

CR and also the VP44 trucks are also at a disadvantage because of the limited RPM. Given we could turn and have the ability to fuel to 5000+ it would have been a different story.

 

[Ryan V]

CR and also the VP44 trucks are also at a disadvantage because of the limited RPM. Given we could turn and have the ability to fuel to 5000+ it would have been a different story.

I agree, give the cr guys the same amount of rpms as duramaxes and ppumps and see where everyone finishes

 

[ILLINOISRAM]

I got 3rd at Scheid and pulled 2.6 all year and I built my truck. Northeast Diesel Service(me)built my own ppump and injs. Not Scheid or Haisleys.

Im sorry, i meant top two trucks. I promise i wont make a mistake like that again. Tim

 

[KTA-Cummins]

Personaly I don't like 3.0 open driveline. I would like to see the classes go back to 2.5" no bushings or inducer modifications, wheel must protrude and all that jazz. Then you can keep 2.8 like it is as its on the ragged edge for OEM driveline but is good for getting better parts built that trickle down to improved street truck perfomance as well by testing the limits of the OEM drivetrains. Then have an unlimited Single open driveline/tire class. If you are going to open driveline I think its an everything goes class to really put on a power show without all the carnage of the Mod class.

 

[01PPUMP]

CR and also the VP44 trucks are also at a disadvantage because of the limited RPM. Given we could turn and have the ability to fuel to 5000+ it would have been a different story.

I think Terry Martin(white dually) had his truck at scheids and it has a the stand alone ECM good for 6000 rpm's. I would say that is a pretty good advantage.

 

[Smoke]

2.8 the way it is, and 2.5" sounds great to me.

 

[SmokeShow]

2.5 vs. 2.6 won't change much if the fueling stays the same IMO. A little bit? Sure, but I don't think it would make a big difference. I could be wrong.


Whatever happens, isn't it about time to start locking in some damn rules for 2-3 years at a time? And unless a safety concern arises, leave 'em alone!!


C-ya