Will 2.8" Stay Around For Years To Come?

Will 2.8" Stay Around For Years To Come?

  • YES

    Votes: 39 50.6%

  • NO

    Votes: 38 49.4%
  • Total voters
    77
outlaw99 said:
so you just want to totaly skip a entry level class? and make the sport for 60k dollar trucks and up? you also eat your own words when you make that comment, then what we have every ****ing 2.8 truck breaking driveline? you go ahead and sanction your own league. I would love to see how many pullers you get, I hope you understand at 80% of these events 2.6 trucks can easily pay the full payout for all classes in there entry fee alone. we averaged prob. 30-35 trucks in just 2.6 every cotpc pull.
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Answer this. How many 2.6 trucks are fit to run the 2.8 class? vs. How many 2.8 trucks are fit to run 3.0 class? Enough said. The suggestion to eliminate a class is dumb is the biggest point. If you going to eliminate a class. Eliminate the class so the majority will stay pulling. You forget to look at both sides of things outlaw. Your in it for you and thats it. You think the 2.8 guys want to be shoved into an unlimited driveline class?
 
you think the 2.6 guys plus every truck below that, that out number 2.8 trucks 10 to 1 want to be pushed into a class that you already said is rediculous? why so we can then all have 60k into our trucks? and still break them every time out.... you just killed the little man. Im not in this for myself if I was then I wouldnt even argue with you about the subject I would just do whatever the rules fold out to.....
 
to answer your questuion. 0 were are all unfit to run 2.8, we would then have no competition becasue we would always break our drivetrains...:stab:
 
outlaw99 said:
you think the 2.6 guys plus every truck below that, that out number 2.8 trucks 10 to 1 want to be pushed into a class that you already said is rediculous? why so we can then all have 60k into our trucks? and still break them every time out.... you just killed the little man. Im not in this for myself if I was then I wouldnt even argue with you about the subject I would just do whatever the rules fold out to.....
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Now answer this. Who do you think will be more competitive and stand a chance. The 2.6 guys with the 2.8 guys or the 2.8 guys with the 3.0 guys?? I know where your from all the 2.6 guys beat the 3.0 trucks but in reality not even the 2.8 trucks compete against the 3.0 trucks.
 
If the 2.6 trucks out number the 2.8, why make the majority change?
 
Tell you all right now I look at it this way if i am a 2.8 truck and they elimanate that class I'm not gonna bump up a class and spend more money I'm dropping a class and stomping the 2.6 class. The way the turbo rules are anyways there isn't any difference at all in a 2.6 and 2.8 truck. I'm not gonna chuck out the change for an open driveline when you can just stay with the setup you have and drop a class and maybe detune just a little bit. I also know of alot of 2.6 trucks that will compete aganist 2.8 trucks. Almsot need to go back to a 2.4 off the shelve charger than go to 2.8 truck then to 3.0 open driveline.
 
mech2161 said:
If the 2.6 trucks out number the 2.8, why make the majority change?
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How do they out number them when 90% of them can change covers or pull a bushing and they are a COMPETITIVE 2.8 truck. Remember all the gripes about the 2.8 trucks dropping and running 2.6 at scheids? I agree it sucks but 25% of the 2.6 field should have been running 2.8 anyhow. 2.8 trucks have $10,000-$15,000 JUST in the driveline to run 3.0. 2.6 guys have to buy an allen wrench or different cover/bushing.
 
dude you don't make any sense, you just argued the fact that all these 2.8 trucks destroy driveline, now you are claiming that a 2.6 truck could pull his plug in his charger and run 2.8 without a problem...while 2.8 truck would run 3.0 turbo but not untill they put 10-15k in there drivetrain.
 
2.6 guys have to buy an allen wrench or different cover/bushing.
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Same for the 2.8 guys. There are more events across the country for 2.6 and more 2.6 trucks competing.
 
outlaw99 said:
dude you don't make any sense, you just argued the fact that all these 2.8 trucks destroy driveline, now you are claiming that a 2.6 truck could pull his plug in his charger and run 2.8 without a problem...while 2.8 truck would run 3.0 turbo but not untill they put 10-15k in there drivetrain.
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No, you said 2.8 trucks dont blow drivelines except for ragged out. When you didnt even think he did. I said, wake up get a clue there are many more! So back to the point you can't eliminate a class. 2.6 truck remove their bushing, add some water and boom. Even more trucks breaking drivelines. Bottom line to me is VERY SIMPLE. Eliminate bushings/covers in 2.6. Force the wild 2.6 trucks to run 2.8. THEN you will have a VERY VERY good, dedicated pulling class to watch(2.8). A class for the guy that drove his truck in(2.6) and the adsolutely unstreetable open driveline trucks (3.0/unlimited single). The reason the 2.8 class is ****ty now is cause they can get away with so much in the 2.6. Let them spray their water if they would like in the 2.8 class. But have your lunch packed cause thats not going to determine if you win or lose. I'm done with this useless arguement. That is my final stand and explanation. If you don't get it. Sorry. But I see this as about the only way to fix it. And get a very good class (2.8) back to where it was/should be. NEVER should your lowest class be as impressive as the next class up. Run the show with some street trucks. Then some dedicated pullers with quite a bit more power. Then the finale with your all out pulling trucks. Great anticipation if you ask me. Now for the first 2 class of the show you never know what is what unless you listen to the announcer.
 
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No bushings or stepped housings for 2.6 so guys that actually daily drive their trucks can compete. I'm not trying to complain but a few of us college kids that don't pull with parent paid for rigs don't stand a chance.
 
Well what's a class for a true street truck without the stock charger, let's say somthing like what's in my sig?
 
right. thats becasue they are making power like a 2.8 truck, I hate the cheater turbo's ****ed this class all up. I also think if we went back to a regular 2.6 or even 2.5 turbo class it would def. help with drivetrain, Ive never broken a rearend or t case or front end with my truck due to I never let the truck get under the turbo, these big chargers and manual trucks have no choice. I think the smaller turbo's would help.
 
I have already spent thousands on my driveline to get it to hold up and will probably spend much more. But I would rather not start over with 10's of thousands going open driveline just to try and compete in a class I dont want to be in. Yes I could drop to 2.6 but that would just suck as well, I have spent the last 4 years building a 2.8 class pull truck I would rather not back up now.

Fix 2.6 with no stepped covers or bushings, let 2.8 spray water, let 3.0 class be either unlimited single bushed or true 3.0 twins. That puts a decent step between every class.
 
I agree. The 2.6 does need to be limited more. No bushings and no stepped covers would limit the class alot, but how long would it take to check for stepped covers? Personally I've never seen a stepped cover, or if I had I didn't know it was one. Would the cover have to be completely removed or can it be done visually from the inducer bore with it on the truck?

I like watching the 2.8 class, but around here the number of 2.8 trucks is getting pretty slim. Kinda hard to make a class with only a couple of trucks at each event unless its some big nation wide event like SDX, TS, IRP, ect...
 
bdp said:
I have already spent thousands on my driveline to get it to hold up and will probably spend much more. But I would rather not start over with 10's of thousands going open driveline just to try and compete in a class I dont want to be in. Yes I could drop to 2.6 but that would just suck as well, I have spent the last 4 years building a 2.8 class pull truck I would rather not back up now.

Fix 2.6 with no stepped covers or bushings, let 2.8 spray water, let 3.0 class be either unlimited single bushed or true 3.0 twins. That puts a decent step between every class.
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Well I like that!
 
Why do you tech every truck?? Tech the one's that pay/get a trophy, and forget the rest. That way, you can check for stepped covers and all these other rules that are needed if you want to limit the class more.

Every Dodge guy out there should be able to pull a compressor cover in less than 10 minutes, and I would think that if a Chevy or Ford guy went to the work to fit a charger that big in there, there would be enough to pull the cover in a reasonable amount of time??


I'm just a racer, but would pull some if I ever get my truck to run right and get enough of the pulling safety equipment on there. Just a couple thoughts from an outsider though?

Chris
 
Pulling the cover on a CR would be harder than you think since its way down in its little corner under the manifold, but I would say the D-max and the 7.3 fords would be harder.
 
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