Mustang or dyno jet.

Joesixpack said:
They don't call them the humbler for nothing. :lolly:
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BINGO!!!!

It is funny that because of these forums, how easy people think you can put together a 1000 hp engine:doh:

It is far more difficult than just a list of parts:Cheer:
 
For 150hp injectors that's not bad at all. Should have cleaned up really well with all that nitrous and no fuel.
 
Dockboy said:
BINGO!!!!

It is funny that because of these forums, how easy people think you can put together a 1000 hp engine:doh:

It is far more difficult than just a list of parts:Cheer:
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"ease" is relative. I fairly sure i can hit 1000whp with a turbo setup change and nothing else right now. how long the OEM 175,000mile old long block will last after that is a toss up.

Relatively speaking, theres a few things i have questions about to make it live when rebuilt (hopefully its rebuilt before blowing up!)

In the end, its all about money. compounds, transmissions, injectors, pumps, dyno time, fuel (for track tuning), suspension (shocks, caltracks, labor on some cases), drive line (ujoints, balancing), tons of other little things that add up cost a chitload.

So yeah, hard work working for the money for those parts i suppose.



I'm shooting for 900-950 when a few new house and rental house things settle, (or LCC merges with AMR!) ill buy the compounds and see if I'm right or full of chit ;) 10.99 and kicked off the track is my goal sometime soon.

Then maybe sell it and get a slightly used 2013 viper, drag radials and a go faster button call it a day. ;)
 
RonA said:
For 150hp injectors that's not bad at all. Should have cleaned up really well with all that nitrous and no fuel.
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it cleared up like a stock truck lol

Dockboy said:
BINGO!!!!

It is funny that because of these forums, how easy people think you can put together a 1000 hp engine:doh:

It is far more difficult than just a list of parts:Cheer:
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I know its harder to make a 1000hp truck than just a list of parts. I had high hopes because when this exact same set up was on the engine dyno it made 1105hp and 2200ft lbs ( now with that set up it had a roller camshaft and roller lifters)

but other than that its the exact same motor. i am just courious why i lost almost 50% of the hp.
 
GreenMeanie5.9 said:
it cleared up like a stock truck lol



I know its harder to make a 1000hp truck than just a list of parts. I had high hopes because when this exact same set up was on the engine dyno it made 1105hp and 2200ft lbs ( now with that set up it had a roller camshaft and roller lifters)

but other than that its the exact same motor. i am just courious why i lost almost 50% of the hp.
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So a 12mm pump with 150hp injectors made 1100hp on an engine dyno(approx 935 rwhp). That's excellent for little injectors.
 
also the motor had water injection on it but yes it did. however they didnt last to long in the motor because we did go to bigger injectors since it was a strict drag truck.
 
JasonCzerak said:
"ease" is relative. I fairly sure i can hit 1000whp with a turbo setup change and nothing else right now. how long the OEM 175,000mile old long block will last after that is a toss up.
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You will not gain 250 hp by just changing turbos :doh:

GreenMeanie5.9 said:
I know its harder to make a 1000hp truck than just a list of parts. I had high hopes because when this exact same set up was on the engine dyno it made 1105hp and 2200ft lbs ( now with that set up it had a roller camshaft and roller lifters)

but other than that its the exact same motor. i am just courious why i lost almost 50% of the hp.
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Is it the SAME engine, or one "built" the same.


BIG DIFFERENCE!!!
 
JasonCzerak said:
"ease" is relative. I fairly sure i can hit 1000whp with a turbo setup change and nothing else right now. how long the OEM 175,000mile old long block will last after that is a toss up.

Relatively speaking, theres a few things i have questions about to make it live when rebuilt (hopefully its rebuilt before blowing up!)
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Mine started to have a bit of blowby after Drakes event. I figured I'd have new rings and bearings put in it after the 6.7 was tuned up. It ended up having a broken oil ring when it was taken apart at 90k miles. Everything else looked excellent including top rod bearings, and lower mains.
 
GreenMeanie5.9 said:
ok well no its not the same engine. but its all the same parts. we took them off that motor and put it on this motor.
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See...there you go...Like I said, a parts list does not make XXXX hp!!!! There are way too many other things that effect performance when assembling and tuning an engine besides the "parts" you use.
 
Dockboy said:
You will not gain 250 hp by just changing turbos :doh:
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you know i have just a little s366 on a T3 setup at 1800degreed right? you're saying an s364/480 will make how much more? 100? 50? 60 feet then boom?

I suppose i'll still be miss matched :)

But, a 475 may be my other choice.. meh.
 
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JasonCzerak said:
you know i have just a little s366 on a T3 setup at 1800degreed right? you're saying an s364/480 will make how much more? 100? 50? 60 feet then boom?

I suppose i'll still be miss matched :)

But, a 475 may be my other choice.. meh.
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I don't know but I'm sure you will pick a "common setup" and then ***** about it not doing the "common" thing.:doh:
 
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Dockboy said:
See...there you go...Like I said, a parts list does not make XXXX hp!!!! There are way too many other things that effect performance when assembling and tuning an engine besides the "parts" you use.
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Way to go Greg. Jason was actually going to pry that big fat wallet of his open and buy twins before you talked him out of it. These shop owners have kids to feed too ya know.LOL
 
RonA said:
Way to go Greg. Jason was actually going to pry that big fat wallet of his open and buy twins before you talked him out of it. These shop owners have kids to feed too ya know.LOL
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:hehe: Ron
 
Dockboy said:
I don't know but I'm sure you will pick a "common setup" and then ***** about it not doing the "common" thing.:doh:
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I'll pick something and we shall see. We shall see....

Ron, I think ill wrench on the turbo upgrade my self. The idea of closing the garage door on an un finished project to be continued another day is something I haven't had since i moved to MN.
 
I have done 875/1436 last fall on the Dyno-Jet 248 at DGR which our club uses for our shows.Then this year at Antrim Diesel at thei annual big rig/pick up dyno show I laid down a 879/1702 on their dual eddy load current dyno.

Dyno numbers are what they are on any given day and should only be used as a tuning tool and not a needle load of testerone for someones ego.
 
1.Up Injector size
2.Up nitrous jets
3.Repeats steps 1 and 2 until you have enough power or it blows up!

Do you know what size the injectors are other than "150hp?"

Doesn't sound like too bad of a number to me.
 
Dockboy said:
BINGO!!!!

It is funny that because of these forums, how easy people think you can put together a 1000 hp engine:doh:

It is far more difficult than just a list of parts:Cheer:
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For a common rail setup (especially on spray) I disagree, it is that simple. For the rest of them I agree completely.
 
dvst8r said:
For a common rail setup (especially on spray) I disagree, it is that simple. For the rest of them I agree completely.
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I think Dockboy's perspective is a little off. Blows up 10's of 100's power strokes and a 1/2 dozen 5.9's in a Ford, It's obvious he knows what's he's doing and it's been a tough long road and not anyone can blow stuff up as consistently as he has in the past! It's hard work!!!

:woohoo:
 
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