Air to water inercooler question...

BTW, glycol solutions significantly reduce the heat transfer properties of water. I would not use it unless you really think you can freeze up the loop (or using a cooling source well below freezing, like dry ice).


where does this stuff come from?

Its a known fact that glycol does a far better job of heat transfer than water does - why? - because thats what it was designed for, amoung other things

Curious - how many of you nay sayers have actually ran a "properly designed" and installed water air setup?
 
seeker1056 said:
BTW, glycol solutions significantly reduce the heat transfer properties of water. I would not use it unless you really think you can freeze up the loop (or using a cooling source well below freezing, like dry ice).


where does this stuff come from?

Its a known fact that glycol does a far better job of heat transfer than water does - why? - because thats what it was designed for, amoung other things

Curious - how many of you nay sayers have actually ran a "properly designed" and installed water air setup?
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Wow, hate to break it to you, but gylcol does reduce the heat transfer of water. Just pick up a can of water wetter if you don't believe me.
The glycol extends the freezing and boiling points of the water.
 
Otts said:
How many pounds of ice were you using?
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He dont run one. Hes talking out his a$$:hehe: The coolers I sell (pictured) have 4" inlets and outlets. By the way SmokinBillyGoat, your truck is one of my favorites out there. Dont know why. But that thing is sweet.
 
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where is the water in a properly setup intercooler system other than in the ice box to provide heat transfer to the heat exchanger?

a water ice system on its own is NOT a properly set up water/air cooling system and is why those who have tried it were not happy with the results
 
I'm talking about Danes setup this is Tory... I'm not really a firm believer in them in a 2.6 truck but hey we will see this year. I mean you can only fit so much ice into a 5gallon cooler. I still drive my truck everyday of the week and make 20+ hooks a year and don't see the need of air to water Intercooler on a 2.6 truck but hey different strokes for different folks.
 
seeker1056 said:
where is the water in a properly setup intercooler system other than in the ice box to provide heat transfer to the heat exchanger?

a water ice system on its own is NOT a properly set up water/air cooling system and is why those who have tried it were not happy with the results
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Please explain?? I thought that was the whole point of air to water?
 
Why because its a 2.6 truck? Lets face it they are full blown pulling trucks. There are only a handful of things seperating them from a Super street truck. Driveline, hand throttle, water injection, Inducer bore, and ag gov. A few other little things is all. Alot of SS trucks dont even run water so thats a + for you as well. Why wouldnt you run it?
 
Well I never said I wouldn't run it... I just still drive my truck on the street. I don't know how much money Dane has wrapped up in his setup but they aren't cheap. It might be worth it and it might not. Time will only tell...
 
seeker1056 said:
where is the water in a properly setup intercooler system other than in the ice box to provide heat transfer to the heat exchanger?

a water ice system on its own is NOT a properly set up water/air cooling system and is why those who have tried it were not happy with the results
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care to share your secrets then or share the info with us then on how to properly setup a W/A cooling system. I am trying to find more info on it as now is the time to do it...before we get to far into this new project of ours.

RyanB
 
Tractor pullers dont run a heat exchange?? and i waould also seeler I would also like to know your theory.
 
we used a fiberglass screen door screen U can get them at eny hardware store for like 10 dollars.
 
NO THEORY HERE - 2 years PROVEN PERFORMANCE ONLY



I wish I was far enough along in my rebuild to just take pix of my setup

I have described it enough times on here but will try again

"1" water air intercooler - 6 x 6 x 12 heat exchanger 3" in and out air and 1" water fittings - 10-an hose fittings

2 - 1" lines from the intercooler back to the box of the truck

"1" bus seat heater electric water pump with 1" inlet and outlets

"1" under seat bus heater assembly 12" x 14" x 36" core with two integral 2 speed fans

"1" boost relay

"1" overflow/air seperator tank

"1" standard Wally MArt large ice chest/cooler

"1" school bus heater core

Water air intercooler, bus seat heater/heat exchanger, bus heater core/heat exchanger and lines all filled with glycol

fans and water pump wired to both a boost switch, and a toggle switch

bus heater core sits in the Wally MArt ice chest

Every day road driving the glycol system operates on its own when boost comes on.

On pulling days we put three or four bags of ice and a couple gallons of water into the ice cooler - packed around the heater core/heat exchanger, and turn the fans on manually

We have made as many as three runs on one ice box of ice and still have ice left

Intake temps generally run around 60 degrees on an 80 degree day with the ice on and around a 100 degrees without
 
One thing to think about everytime you add a heat exchanger you loose efficiency.
 
seeker1056 said:
NO THEORY HERE - 2 years PROVEN PERFORMANCE ONLY
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Proven peformance??? :hehe:

Who have you beat? At what national-level pull?

And regarding your total lack of knowledge about glycol solutions, basically everything you say should go through one ear and out the other. Really, your misinformation is of epic proportion. :doh:

My wife is a professional engineer and she could go on for hours about cooling system design and what % everything needs to be upsized (heat exchangers, etc) to run with glycol because the transfer properties are lower.

And I find it totally hilarious, that you can't see the fact that if you are not melting your ice, you're not removing heat. It's rather obvious. It's called heat TRANSFER for a reason.


You must be smoking a heck of a lot of dope.
 
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Proven peformance??? :hehe:



And I find it totally hilarious, that you can't see the fact that if you are not melting your ice, you're not removing heat. It's rather obvious. It's called heat TRANSFER for a reason.


You must be smoking a heck of a lot of dope.
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I noticed that also, but with the 70 degree intake temps I was puzzled. I guess in Canada, maybe the relative temp was 30? Or maybe that was 70 degrees C?
 
Especially with his filter setup sucking hot underhood air.

Maybe that's another secret weapon. Hot air.
 
So some say it's worth it and some say it's not is basically where we are stuck?
 
actually the first fan cooled heat exchanger is removin most of the heat cuz the heat exchanger is about 20 times larger than the intercooler

did you miss the reduced air intake temps part ????????? or were ya too busy dissin

I dont have to beat anyone to prove that my air temps went down significantly and my boost went up and my egts went down and i sure dont have to beat anyone to know that the cooling generated 5-6 psi more boost which is more power

and as to wether or not water will remove more heat than glycol isnt up for discussion either - I never said it did - what I said was a glycol water/air system that seperated the ice from the coolant was way of better doin it - you can easily substitute water in the main system if thats what you want to do - who gives a sh - t, - it was the point that the ice can be significantly better utilized in a system like mine

geez - egos and the sandbox mentality on this site is amazing on just about any subject

if you cant buy it off the store shelf - its no good, and if you can buy it off the store shelf "mines better n yours"

just remember - its people like me that became the PDR's and Shieds of this world - because we arent afraid to think outside of the box, and definitely dont listen to the people who aint been there done it and failed a dozen or so times

What was it Bell said - I didnt fail 1000 times - I just found a better way to make a light bulb


as to the hundred bucks - buddy you lose cuz I aint arguin - so email me so I can send you my Paypal addy

by the way - if any of you nay sayers got a better workin system (which obviously none of you has by the posts on this thread) - please to show us - I would love to have a few more ponies and will switch to your system the minute you show me
 
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