High HP 1998 12 valve

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First off I have to say that these forums have been a great help in the short time I've been here. :rockwoot:

I have a customer who wants 11-1200hp from a 1998 12v 5.9 (Don't we all). First off, is this possible? If not, how much hp is realistically possible? His truck will be used for strip use only. This is the tallest order we've seen yet and would like to help this guy out.

What kind of 'wish list' does this guy need? (supply fuel, injection, lines, tubes,intake, turbo's, exhaust) Can someone PM me or post a list with parts and part #'s.


Thanks,
Sean
 
1200hp is it possible ? Yes

Do we give you a list of parts? NO
 
Depends if you are using nitrous or fuel only, build will be different to different goal.
 
In my opinion, if you have to ask if 1200 is possible and you are asking for LIST of parts, you SHOULD NOT be building his engine. But good luck
 
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In my opinion, if you have to ask if 1200 is possible and you are asking for LIST of parts, you SHOULD NOT be building his engine. But good luck
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Very well said. I see lots of folks who just seem to start up a diesel shop cause it is cool. Remind you these are the same folks that I wouldn't trust to change the oil on my car.
 
I gotta say I'm with Taylor and Dan... If you don't know if it's possible, you don't need to be doing the build...
 
Don't appreciate the responses so far.

I am not starting a diesel shop. We have been in business for 25+ years...but have not ventured further than your minor bolt on's and have only dealt with working with guys with 500hp and less. The long block has been built by a different shop and he wants us to source the support system (fuel and air) for his build. I figure if we supply him with a system that has the capabilities of 1000+ hp he only has to spend the money once.

I am asking for guidance, not for someone to give wisecracks.

Thanks,
Sean
 
You going to use nitrous or no? I would say whatever is done. I would start completely over. Plenty of head work to be done. Studs everywhere. And I'm sure the piston and cam set up he has for the street would want to be looked at as well.
 
I'm with all of these guys. We can't just give you a list of parts that you can bolt on and make 1200hp, it doesn't really work like that. You could outfit the guy with the coolest set of turbos, pump, injectors, pistons, you name it all top of the line but unless you design it all together and tune it really well its not going to work worth a dang. The task you're up against requires a lot more than just bolting on good parts.

Your best bet is to get in touch with a company that has the diversity to supply all of the parts that he needs. They can match the fuel to the air and put it in an engine package that has the potential. That way you use the shops experience instead of spending years studying and researching so you can mix, match, and tune it yourself.

$.02
 
I would hate to be the guy getting his engine built at that shop....to come on the forums and see him asking us normal guys what setup will give you 1100hp... Have him call Industrial Injection or Schied or something
 
Seriously? C'mon guys. There are a lot of shops out there with no interest in building these engines up to what they can be and no interest to follow the performance scene. I know plenty of intelligent mechanics that had no clue what could be produced by a diesel engine.

Does your customer want to use nitrous or not? How much does he want to spend and is he doing any modifications to the body of the truck to make it lighter? A lighter truck will see a higher yield per horsepower.

Welcome to CompetitionDiesel. Pop open a drink and read up on some stuff. The search function will be your friend. There are many tried and true twin and single setups with varying fuel setups.

To start things off with the fuel, I would get in touch with Seth (CTDYoungGun on here) and have him setup the injection pump. Seth did the work to mine and I am very pleased. Talking to him about a set of injectors and the degrees of timing would also be your best bet.

There are a few companies for turbochargers to go through. I would recommend E.D. or Engineered Diesel. They are a great company and will help out in any way that they can.
 
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First off, welcome to CompD. You'll get plenty of help, but you'll get as many people that will wisecrack, and bust your chaps. You best get used to it. One thing you won't be getting on here is a list of parts that will give you xxxx hp. That aint the way things work here.

If you need an engine to put out 1200 hp and all you've done is basic bolt ons, you'd be way better off calling Woodruff, Peak, Shriver, Sheids, Garmon, or someone else that has experience with that level of work and tuning and then you bolt it in.

Does your customer know what a 1200hp engine is? Or did he just pick a number he thinks sounds cool? What are his goals with the truck?
 
Forums always will be like this...I got that, my skin is pretty think i think.


White Knight said:
The task you're up against requires a lot more than just bolting on good parts.
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All my 'task' is here is supplying a customer with parts that will support 11-1200hp. I am not bolting anything on. I am not tuning anything. I am supplying the parts. If you read my original post guys, I think that is all I am asking. If not, then I appologize for the lack of clarity. One company has been kind enough to reply via pm to what I am looking for...no bashing, just looking to help us out.

Also, I just got off the phone with the customer he is not opposed to using nitrous if need be. He what he wants and that is that. I personally know what 1000+ hp is...just gas version, different ball game...hehe.

The points made here are valid, and appreciate some of the responses. If you don't feel you want to answer my question with intelegence, then don't increase your post count at my thread's expense. I am not asking for your opinion whether I should do this or not.

Thanks...I think.
Sean
 
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displacedtexan said:
Does your customer know what a 1200hp engine is? Or did he just pick a number he thinks sounds cool? What are his goals with the truck?
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Nick brings up a good point here. It takes a lot of money to maintain a truck with this much horsepower. Depending on what times he is looking for the truck will need to be caged or at the very least a roll bar. 1200hp is no joke and you will work very hard to get it there. Spending the money once means talking to a shop that has the experience. A few shops have been named already that would be a great start.
 
I would say if he has 1100 to 1200hp on the strip he will be one of the fastest out there... esp. if he sets the truck up right and weight right. tell your customer to first build a 800hp drag truck and get the weight and power right. I think he would be suprised at the times he will run there.. 5500 lb truck at 800hp is a solid mid 10 sec truck theres not many there now.. if he wants more power go from there... as asking this question would lead me to believe this is your first build I wouldnt go to crazy.. you will get in to far and break way to many parts... 800 hp is obtainable and not as pricy as 1000hp.. the diff it 200hp but alot of money..
 
The difference in 800 hp and 1000 hp is like the diff between an 11 and a 10. The first 200 hp is easy, it's the last that will break ya.
 
displacedtexan said:
First off, welcome to CompD. You'll get plenty of help, but you'll get as many people that will wisecrack, and bust your chaps. You best get used to it. One thing you won't be getting on here is a list of parts that will give you xxxx hp. That aint the way things work here.
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that's the way it's looking so far

...Woodruff, Peak, Shriver, Sheids, Garmon...
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thanks

Does your customer know what a 1200hp engine is? Or did he just pick a number he thinks sounds cool? What are his goals with the truck?
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Truthfully...not 100% sure. From talking to him, his goals are a strip only truck running sub 10 second 1/4 mile times. Lighter the truck, then I unserstand he won't need 11-1200hp. I haven't asked him the weight of the truck...what chassis...etc. etc.

thanks
 
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