High HP 1998 12 valve

2Tone12V said:
Let them worry about that. Hes asking for advice. If you don't want to give it. Then don't. Don't worry about their issues. Hes a grown man I'm sure. Hes built engines before. Surely he knows what risk hes taking. If he feels he can tackle it. Let him. Thats not for us to determine whether he is capable or not. He wants advice on some good parts. Its like *****y women around here. Anything to argue about. I know words can be taken the wrong way since your reading a keyboard. Let it go. Give him some advice or ignore it. If it frustrates you don't read it.
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Just what exactly do you think he has gotten? If someone asked you which was better to cut their wrists with, a razor blade, or a steak knife would you not feel inclined to advise them against cutting their wrists in the first place? Even if they were a "grown man"? Sometimes the advice people need goes a little deeper than the initial question they ask.

Anyway, have at it. I've given mine, it's obviously falling on deaf ears.

Best of luck.
 
Do you think that if a a guy has a 1200 hp motor built with haisley or schied would be mad if it blew up after 5 passes becasue of some kind of failure? no, when you build a high hp engine you assume the responsibility that anything could go wrong it could blow up on 1 pass. should it no but could it yes.. you forget that at 1200hp parts are not made to make that much hp we are pushing things to make that kinda hp.
 
outlaw99 said:
Do you think that if a a guy has a 1200 hp motor built with haisley or schied would be mad if it blew up after 5 passes becasue of some kind of failure? no, when you build a high hp engine you assume the responsibility that anything could go wrong it could blow up on 1 pass. should it no but could it yes.. you forget that at 1200hp parts are not made to make that much hp we are pushing things to make that kinda hp.
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We're not on the same page. I'm not going to worry about it anymore. I've stated my opinion on the subject.

Best of luck to the OP, and the owner.
 
Anthony, I like you. But I've gotta say you seem to be the only one frustrated. Maybe you should take your own advice...
 
Any builder can rattle off a list of parts.

Realize that there might be several extra steps done to each part-(massaging,machining hardening processes, thermal barrier processes ect-)
to make it work at the projected power level......

The only way you will find out what needs to be done and why- is to consult with a known builder..... One who has the known experience involved so you don't have to take that costly trail of trail and error- which only results in broken parts and unhappy customers....
 
displacedtexan said:
Anthony, I like you. But I've gotta say you seem to be the only one frustrated. Maybe you should take your own advice...
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I'm not frustrated. Just went at the guy the wrong way. We didn't really make him feel to welcome in the diesel world is all. I'm all about the sport growing. We had a rough year last year. The more the better. Someone wants to try as many have an failed let them. Get them on the right path on what they may need and let them take responsibility of what could happen. No frustration here. Treating folks like dummies just isn't the way to go about it.
 
Here is the problem. The OP came off like this:

I have a customer that wants me to build an engine that will make 1200HP. Can you give me a list of parts to do this so I can make money off of him?

That is not good. It's like coming out and saying "kick me in the ass please"

High horsepower is expensive for everyone involved. Everyone. Supplier, builder, owner. They are all held accountable. The supplier owns the parts, the builder owns the workmanship, and the owner...well, they take the largest risk, but they all work together for a common goal.

Everyone involved understands that it will break at some point. Everyone pays their share.
There is no public list or build sheet in existence. It's like climbing a mountain. Sure there is a way to get to the top, because it has been done before, but that doesn't make it easy for the next guy. You gotta talk to the guys that have been up there before you pack your bags and head out.

For future reference wheelsuplx. Just hang around here and read. Post up were and when you can. Call the vendors of your choice and chit chat. Talk to the folks that have been up the mountain.


Welcome to CompD by the way. :Cheer:
 
wheelsuplx said:
First off I have to say that these forums have been a great help in the short time I've been here. :rockwoot:

I have a customer who wants 11-1200hp from a 1998 12v 5.9 (Don't we all). First off, is this possible? If not, how much hp is realistically possible? His truck will be used for strip use only. This is the tallest order we've seen yet and would like to help this guy out.

What kind of 'wish list' does this guy need? (supply fuel, injection, lines, tubes,intake, turbo's, exhaust) Can someone PM me or post a list with parts and part #'s.


Thanks,
Sean
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Thank's SNEDGE...no worries. And to all the others, I am listening. Don't tell me what I am or am not doing please. Thanks.

Thought I'd post this original post back up. I didn't read anywhere in there that I am building the engine or that we are doing 1200hp...Just what my guy wants. Anyone else out there see it?? Maybe I have to look closer at MY OWN POST. LOL Everyone just saw 1200hp , reached into the corner, grabbed a bat and started swingin'.

Maybe read it slower guys. I can agree here that part #s aren't going to happen as there are millions of variables.
 
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Regina....nice! Was there in 07 working as a tech for CNH on Combines. Lost my damn college cap there in some resturaunt! Whats that brewery name there?
 
wheelsuplx said:
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada. Igloo's aren't quite built yet..LOL
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You would have Peak Diesel up there and Diesel Pro's is in Washington state..... Not sure if your location is East or West? You also have MASS Diesel..... Either of those should be able to help and are close to the border. And they are also site vendors here.
 
wheelsuplx said:
Thank's SNEDGE...no worries. And to all the others, I am listening. Don't tell me what I am or am not doing please. Thanks.

Thought I'd post this original post back up. I didn't read anywhere in there that I am building the engine or that we are doing 1200hp...Just what my guy wants. Anyone else out there see it?? Maybe I have to look closer at MY OWN POST. LOL Everyone just saw 1200hp , reached into the corner, grabbed a bat and started swingin'.

Maybe read it slower guys. I can agree here that part #s aren't going to happen as there are millions of variables.
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Some lessons are best taught by a checkbook.
 
Thanks RacinDuallie.

I've talked to a few more 'builders' over the last few days and all have been more than helpful with advise and guidance in what this guy can realistically expect. I believe we can put together something that can put down 900-1000hp when tuned that will live. He will have a steep hill to climb for sure and thanks for the 'info' that those that have taken the time to post.
 
Charles said:
Some lessons are best taught by a checkbook.
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You changed your post from a few seconds ago Charles...lol.

Not once have you answered this part of my post.

If not, how much hp is realistically possible? His truck will be used for strip use only.

All you have done is bash and argue and poke. Can you answer it Charles?
 
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wheelsuplx said:
You changed your post from a few seconds ago Charles...lol.

Not once have you answered this part of my post.

If not, how much hp is realistically possible? His truck will be used for strip use only.

All you have done is bash and argue and poke. Can you answer it Charles?
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Over 2000hp is realistically possible DA.

Now am I the one to consult on how to do it?

No.


Are you?

No.


And that's the point. Now if you're acting as a liaison between a shop with a known engine program at the desired level and your customer, then good on you.
 
NO, I think my point right here, right now is I asked a question and you bashed not answered.

A simple...'I think 600hp is realistically possible given the scenario you are in with this customer' Or 'I think 800-900hp is realistic...and you working with a shop that has been there, done that...here are a few well known in the business that I'm sure will help you out' would've been ok as well.
 
you know, besides doritos, I too like tabasco on my pretzels.


seriously, instead of continuing this dick swinging match, you could be chatting it up with a reputable builder and getting some ducks in a row to help that poor old customer get his truck kilo-horsepower equipped!
 
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