High HP 1998 12 valve

I dont no, i think 1200 horespower would be easily attained by stacking a smarty, quadzilla, superchips, hypertech, diablosport, bully dog, banks, and ts mp-8.:poke: Seriously tho, wat they said.
 
Bustedknuckles said:
I dont no, i think 1200 horespower would be easily attained by stacking a smarty, quadzilla, superchips, hypertech, diablosport, bully dog, banks, and ts mp-8.:poke: Seriously tho, wat they said.
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that's funny right there i don't care who you are
 
wheelsuplx, man alive.LOL It's been awhile since someone new to CompD has been beat on this badly. Hang in there. :)
 
Ya heaven forbid someone new to high performance attempt to get some answers. Good way to treat a potential new competitor to the sport. That will sure help the sport grow.
 
A concern of mine with this client would be the let down when he puts it on a chassis dyno. More than likely a 1200HP truck won't be 1200 on a chassis dyno.....you will never get the turbos to light completly. Im sure the client will be sick when he does not see the numbers he is looking for with the money he has spent to get there.

In order for the client to truly be satisfied with his money he needs to send the motor and truck to scheid diesel. They will build the motor then put it on a engine dyno for a proven 1200 HP. Pass this client on...it will be more of a headache if you don't!
 
2Tone12V said:
Ya heaven forbid someone new to high performance attempt to get some answers. Good way to treat a potential new competitor to the sport. That will sure help the sport grow.
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I didn't see you spit out a list of parts, complete with part numbers BPA...
 
9 LIVES said:
A concern of mine with this client would be the let down when he puts it on a chassis dyno. More than likely a 1200HP truck won't be 1200 on a chassis dyno.....you will never get the turbos to light completly. Im sure the client will be sick when he does not see the numbers he is looking for with the money he has spent to get there.

In order for the client to truly be satisfied with his money he needs to send the motor and truck to scheid diesel. They will build the motor then put it on a engine dyno for a proven 1200 HP. Pass this client on...it will be more of a headache if you don't!
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It's not like trucks don't make 1200+ on the chassis dyno.
 
displacedtexan said:
I didn't see you spit out a list of parts, complete with part numbers BPA...
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Didn't say you had to spill the beans. Didn't have to be little the guy either. Something about this site. You have to run everyone in the ground about and make them feel like chit to suit yourself. What are you guys 5 ft tall with a big diesel? You suffering from small man's syndrome or what? No need to be rude to the guy over and over.
 
Let's see.
CDS for the pump. 13mm set to do about 900cc on top.
Lines from Haisley.
Injectors from DDP or Smokem. DDP has made them for a 1200hp truck before.
Turbo's, compounds with maybe a GT4294/GT55 setup.
Opie's big Mitusa for fuel.
One of Hamiltons 12V heads(when they become available).
Short block by someone who's been there before.
Cam is dealers choice.
Exhaust manifold is dealers choice.

Bleed a modest amount of nitrous into it and you should be there easy.

Might consider going to chuch on Sundays and praying that it all holds together.(It can't hurt).
 
2Tone12V said:
Didn't say you had to spill the beans. Didn't have to be little the guy either. Something about this site. You have to run everyone in the ground about and make them feel like chit to suit yourself. What are you guys 5 ft tall with a big diesel? You suffering from small man's syndrome or what? No need to be rude to the guy over and over.
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None of what you're claiming actually happened. What did happen was truth, not warm and fuzzy cheerleading, just truth. I never saw anything but straight-shooting.

To be blunt.... expecting to make a reliable 1200hp 5.9 for drag racing use without any existing engine PROGRAM in place is simply naive. You can thank most people in this thread for honestly taking that idea and "running it into the ground" where it belongs. And if the OP takes that advice he might just thank them later for saving him a bunch of grief, time and money down the road when the engine(s) let go or don't make the power. The people building 1200+hp 5.9's that hold together in race vehicles didn't just wake up one morning, get on a forum and ask how to do it.

If a 1200hp 5.9 that's solid enough to make pass after pass after pass is just way easier than I'm thinking then nevermind. And if that's the case then my apologies for running someone down. As it stands I think this thread is merely a reality check.
 
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Charles said:
None of what you're claiming actually happened. What did happen was truth, not warm and fuzzy cheerleading, just truth. I never saw anything but straight-shooting.

To be blunt.... expecting to make a reliable 1200hp 5.9 for drag racing use without any existing engine PROGRAM in place is simply naive. You can thank most people in this thread for honestly taking that idea and "running it into the ground" where it belongs. And if the OP takes that advice he might just thank them later for saving him a bunch of grief, time and money down the road when the engine(s) let go or don't make the power. The people building 1200+hp 5.9's that hold together in race vehicles didn't just wake up one morning, get on a forum and ask how to do it.

If a 1200hp 5.9 that's solid enough to make pass after pass after pass is just way easier than I'm thinking then nevermind. And if that's the case then my apologies for running someone down. As it stands I think this thread is merely a reality check.
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LOL so where is this supposed "threshold" where average joes are no longer supposed to be allowed to build big hp trucks? If you take your time, ask the right questions to the RIGHT PEOPLE, and over engineer its totally possible. Just because schied and others build these trucks doesnt mean an average joe cant....they dont sprinkle magic fairy dust on the motors, they're done right with proper parts and precautions done for EVERYTHING. Thats what it takes.
 
Well I dont recall this guy ever asking how to make a reliable 1200hp only a drag only 1200hp so the truck will hardly see any miles... he did not say that he wants a bullit proof list of parts only a direction to go with... you guys are overreacting.
 
Part numbers are not a direction. They are an exact specification.

And I've seen an engine built by one of the best Cummins engine builders in the world send rods through both sides of the block, at that power level not even through it's first season. It's an expensive risky undertaking. Even for someone that has been down that road. Much less someone that has no idea what it takes.

If you want to take up hunting do you go squirrel hunting a few times at your cousin Jimmy's place, and then book a 3 week safari to Africa to hunt Lions and Cape Buffalo?
 
SledPuller21 said:
LOL so where is this supposed "threshold" where average joes are no longer supposed to be allowed to build big hp trucks? If you take your time, ask the right questions to the RIGHT PEOPLE, and over engineer its totally possible. Just because schied and others build these trucks doesnt mean an average joe cant....they dont sprinkle magic fairy dust on the motors, they're done right with proper parts and precautions done for EVERYTHING. Thats what it takes.
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That's great....

Problem is "Average Joe" ISN'T trying to build the engine by picking and choosing the parts himself and taking on the responsibility.. He's asking a diesel shop to do it. And IN THAT CASE, that shop had better have their sh*t straight before they stick their ass out on the line for a 1200ish hp engine that grenades because of ___ and the guy's looking at them like, well, when will you have it back together for me...

That's my opinion.
 
outlaw99 said:
Well I dont recall this guy ever asking how to make a reliable 1200hp only a drag only 1200hp so the truck will hardly see any miles... he did not say that he wants a bullit proof list of parts only a direction to go with... you guys are overreacting.
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You would be correct if it didn't take an extremely reliable engine to run at 1200hp in a drag truck for a season. Consider the cost of the engine in question, now consider how many passes you might want out of such an engine before building another. Does the word reliable make more sense to you now? Or did you think drag racers enjoyed oiling down the track over and over and pissing away thousands and thousands of dollars to build multiple engines in a single season?

If the guy just wanted to spray the piss out of it and stick 1200ish on the dyno at an event every now and then, then yes, he could get away with a LOT less. But if he's building a drag truck to go race with I highly doubt he expects to get an engine that pops every 4th pass...
 
Charles said:
That's great....

Problem is "Average Joe" ISN'T trying to build the engine by picking and choosing the parts himself and taking on the responsibility.. He's asking a diesel shop to do it. And IN THAT CASE, that shop had better have their sh*t straight before they stick their ass out on the line for a 1200ish hp engine that grenades because of ___ and the guy's looking at them like, well, when will you have it back together for me...

That's my opinion.
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Let them worry about that. Hes asking for advice. If you don't want to give it. Then don't. Don't worry about their issues. Hes a grown man I'm sure. Hes built engines before. Surely he knows what risk hes taking. If he feels he can tackle it. Let him. Thats not for us to determine whether he is capable or not. He wants advice on some good parts. Its like *****y women around here. Anything to argue about. I know words can be taken the wrong way since your reading a keyboard. Let it go. Give him some advice or ignore it. If it frustrates you don't read it.
 
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