How many known 1,000hp dmax's?

I can stand listening to a Dmax guy run on about how great it is over a Ford driver rant about how great the Powerstroke is. There were some good running strokes out there this year, but honestly I expected to see a better outcome for them.

I forgot to ask Gale Banks when I spoke to him if he had any plans on tinkering with a CR Dodge or Ford 6.4 in the future. I mean if they can do what they've done with the Dmax (which I think many said they couldn't do - run without excessive smoke) I wonder what they can do with the other motors.
 
so how many D-max's can make 800hp on stock internals? And how long will it last? I've seen cummins with 800HP on stock internals, and have 10,000+miles doing it. Cash to cash and mods to mods, I stil think the cummins is king, my opinion. Unless you can prove me wrong, But why has the aftermarket rod sales for D-maxes gone up 1000% in the past year or two?

Quite a few have made that number. Mine has done it plenty of times. And yes it will grenade, it took about 75K miles for mine to split a piston pulling 700 to 800 HP, a fair bit more than 10K miles but who really cares? You push any engine at 3 times the design limit of power you can't expect them to hold together.

Does the Cummins have bigger rods? Sure. Is it a stronger engine is stock form? Sure. Does this grant you some magic power that we are not aware of? Nope. They make every aftermarket component for the Cummins too, rods, pistons, etc. cause they break when pushed past 3 times design limits.

The aftermarket for rods in the Duramax has gone up because yes, they are a weak link. GM did not expect them to or build them to hold 1,000 horsepower. The better parts will continue to flood in for the Duramax as things progress as it has been proven to be a great platform to make power. I don't understand why that has to bring out the hate like it does, hell, I enjoy seeing them all kick out big power.

Guess some folks love their illusion of superiority.... :blahblah1:
 
Quite a few have made that number. Mine has done it plenty of times. And yes it will grenade, it took about 75K miles for mine to split a piston pulling 700 to 800 HP, a fair bit more than 10K miles but who really cares? You push any engine at 3 times the design limit of power you can't expect them to hold together.

Does the Cummins have bigger rods? Sure. Is it a stronger engine is stock form? Sure. Does this grant you some magic power that we are not aware of? Nope. They make every aftermarket component for the Cummins too, rods, pistons, etc. cause they break when pushed past 3 times design limits.

The aftermarket for rods in the Duramax has gone up because yes, they are a weak link. GM did not expect them to or build them to hold 1,000 horsepower. The better parts will continue to flood in for the Duramax as things progress as it has been proven to be a great platform to make power. I don't understand why that has to bring out the hate like it does, hell, I enjoy seeing them all kick out big power.

Guess some folks love their illusion of superiority.... :blahblah1:

good post:clap:
 
The "Brand Wars" will never go away. People always :cheer: the brand of truck they own or like, thats human nature. We are all diesel enthusiasts that strive to make improvements and upgrades to our trucks. Each brand has their own specific issues and failures which we continue to address. Anyone who claims otherwise is just plain full of chit.

I for one had to find out the hard way as many others have but thats all part of the game. Making 1000+ HP on any engine doesn't come easy. But as we experiment we learn and improve. Is the Cummins a stout strong motor with huge potential.....yes! The Duramax is much more complex and has taken quite a bit more than others to get where we are today but thats something we accept and deal with. There is an old saying in the gasser world.....There is no replacement for displacement and that is the reason why some choose the Dmax over others. So is it a contender? I believe so.

As Brandon said above 700-800 HP is obtainable but won't last forever, but that is no different than any other brand. You will hear over and over that my truck has done this and that with no issues at XXX RWHP. Like I have said before 95% of failures never hit the board but we all know they happen. There are no secret "Super Undistructable Diesel Engines" out there. Hardparts fail no matter what you got.
 
I think it's because more and more of you guys are starting to flap your gums :poke:.

If I had a nickel for every time I talked to a Cummins owner with an Edge and way too big injectors saying they're pushing 600 and they might be lucky to break 400. I like my Chevy, you like your Dodge, I'm good with that. We both like diesels.

Neither of my trucks make a 1000hp and I can live with that. I prefer to measure in feet, not hp. If I go 300+ and beat a truck with more power, I'm good with that.

Dynos are a tuning tool that are now being manipulated way too often. I don't beleive half the **** I see come from them now anyway.
 
I think it's because more and more of you guys are starting to flap your gums :poke:.

DUSTIN

Are going to show up at any pulls this year? I would be more than happpy to hand you your rear again with the wife's truck.:cheer:

Honestly you are not even in NWPADMAX's league. Your smack talk is just setting up to fail. :blahblah1: Show up a FPP Pro Street hook and lets see who got what.:poke:
 
Quite a few have made that number. Mine has done it plenty of times. And yes it will grenade, it took about 75K miles for mine to split a piston pulling 700 to 800 HP, a fair bit more than 10K miles but who really cares? You push any engine at 3 times the design limit of power you can't expect them to hold together.

Does the Cummins have bigger rods? Sure. Is it a stronger engine is stock form? Sure. Does this grant you some magic power that we are not aware of? Nope. They make every aftermarket component for the Cummins too, rods, pistons, etc. cause they break when pushed past 3 times design limits.

The aftermarket for rods in the Duramax has gone up because yes, they are a weak link. GM did not expect them to or build them to hold 1,000 horsepower. The better parts will continue to flood in for the Duramax as things progress as it has been proven to be a great platform to make power. I don't understand why that has to bring out the hate like it does, hell, I enjoy seeing them all kick out big power.

Guess some folks love their illusion of superiority.... :blahblah1:

Ok, In what part of that post did I EVER say the Duramax was crap? I left that open to your discretion, how you took it is on you, guilty conscience?. I was asking how many could/have done it on stock internals, Thats the whole prove me wrong statement, seen it done on a cummins, never on a D-max, and was curious, But, I have learned one thing from this post: you Duramax owners, your sure quick to try and talk up your rigs to the point where when a comment is made, you jump to conclusions. and since when does it not matter how much you spend on your truck? Whos got the bottomless bank account for their truck? Obviously, you missed the point of my post, Cash for Cash and mod for mod, that was the point. How many truck owners you know have the time/money to open their block for a set of rods? I was stating that the Cummins is a good strong motor, of good design, BUT, as you pointed out, they all have their weak points both the dodge, and the chevy. Talk badly all you want about the Cummins, and its Casing(the truck) all you want I don't care. I had the money to buy and build a chevy to 1000HP, I chose not to. The Cummins fit my needs nicely. As you said its awesome to see the power from any brand, and those V8's sound good, no doubt. There was no hate in my post, How you interpreted it is on you, It show your character, and a few of you showed your true colors. Hell, with as many big HP dodges out there, its good to see you guys can get all that opposing weight to spin that hard, and not grenade, congrats, and hats off. Gotta have some competition somewhere.

SO, my response to ALL you D-max guys that had their feathers ruffled by my post, fantastic, glad to see people read this drizzle, Spend more money, make a fast truck, and make the Cummins fight for its place, keep the "My Brand X is better than your brand Z." attitudes, its how racing was born...:Cheer:
-Rob
 
If I had a nickel for every time I talked to a Cummins owner with an Edge and way too big injectors saying they're pushing 600 and they might be lucky to break 400. I like my Chevy, you like your Dodge, I'm good with that. We both like diesels.

Neither of my trucks make a 1000hp and I can live with that. I prefer to measure in feet, not hp. If I go 300+ and beat a truck with more power, I'm good with that.

Dynos are a tuning tool that are now being manipulated way too often. I don't beleive half the **** I see come from them now anyway.

Yeah I'm with you on that really. I mean I remember so many times where I've heard a guy say he's pushing x amount of horsepower. Once last year at a bar my friends and I go to on Thursdays a guy was commenting on my truck (my old 03) which was parked along the street. He didn't know it was mine and said something about it being "just another smoke belching dodge that's probably not very fast" and before I said it was mine I asked him what he had. Funny enough he told me about his 05 Duramax, and how it had about 575 rear wheel horsepower. I had previously dyno'd 525 to the wheels in my truck and had put no more mods on since the run. I told him I'll run you in my truck and he asked what do you have and I answered "Just a smoke belching dodge that's not very fast" and pointed to my truck. He kinda got apologetic and said oh man I didn't know that was yours and yada yada. Long story short I saw him at the track several weeks later and his best run was a low 14, and that's not 575 rwhp in a dmax. I only dyno'd my rig just out of curiosity, rather than to brag that I had 500 hp. Honestly, in this world of diesel performance 500hp isn't anything braggable IMO, unless you've got something like a 7.3 and even then it's questionable. Dyno's are fun all, but I respect a truck that gets down the track quicker or pulls the sled farther than the guy that put down more hp.
 
Non-edumacated basic tuner math
Duramax factory power-300 flywheel hp=figure 240rwhp in this case
240rwhp+120hp Edge+215hp Quad = god damn I got 575rwhp truck
 
Non-edumacated basic tuner math
Duramax factory power-300 flywheel hp=figure 240rwhp in this case
240rwhp+120hp Edge+215hp Quad = god damn I got 575rwhp truck


..it's worse than that. OEM says "360 HP" and then they add from there.:bang 360 + 180 HOT EDGE + 400 PPE = OMF gosh...940 HP!
 
DUSTIN

Are going to show up at any pulls this year? I would be more than happpy to hand you your rear again with the wife's truck.:cheer:

Honestly you are not even in NWPADMAX's league. Your smack talk is just setting up to fail. :blahblah1: Show up a FPP Pro Street hook and lets see who got what.:poke:

Lol, I'm already signed up for points...new year, new truck, a few sponsors, I guess we'll see what happens, but what do I know I'm just some kid that don't know a thing. See ya at Mercer.:evil
 
You will not see me at Mercer. That is Street Diesel hook. :rules: I and Coop are in Pro. The first hook for us is the weekend after Mercer at New Lexington,Oh.

Your running a regular cab and G56. Good Luck. Going to be a long year.:bang
 
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We'll see...you might be in for a long season if your truck don't run as good as your mouth. And as you might recall a reg cab won the points the last 2 years in pro street, so how that matters idk. And you should bring your wifes truck down to mercer if you think it runs so good...I'll put 20 feet on it.
 
We'll see...you might be in for a long season if your truck don't run as good as your mouth. And as you might recall a reg cab won the points the last 2 years in pro street, so how that matters idk. And you should bring your wifes truck down to mercer if you think it runs so good...I'll put 20 feet on it.

My money is on the wife's truck.
 
We'll see...you might be in for a long season if your truck don't run as good as your mouth. And as you might recall a reg cab won the points the last 2 years in pro street, so how that matters idk. And you should bring your wifes truck down to mercer if you think it runs so good...I'll put 20 feet on it.

But in Pro Street you can hang weight. In Street you can not. :owned: Regular cabs do fine if you can hang weight but when you can not you will get killed by long wheelbase trucks. What has dominated Street over the last couple years? Crewcabs and Ex cab longbeds. Stock turbo trucks can kill the G56. I have see several fall out the bottom with my own eyes.

So you want a peice of the wifes truck????:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
 
Wow you are an idiot:doh:...cause you'd know know QCSB and reg cab long bed have the same wheel base...and I've seen many QCSB's own. John I'm glad your wife lets you tinker with her truck and I'll gladly lay a smack down on it too.
 
Wow you are an idiot:doh:...cause you'd know know QCSB and reg cab long bed have the same wheel base...and I've seen many QCSB's own. John I'm glad your wife lets you tinker with her truck and I'll gladly lay a smack down on it too.

How many times you think Pops is going to hand it to you in street this year?
 
Holy **** you guys have no idea what is done to that truck, so why run your mouth? that reg cab common rail with the g56 tranny may just have to lay an ass whoopin down on you dmaxers so you stop foamin at the mouth, and i will be at mercer to watch it happen
 
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