Scheids rules...

...........the bushing rule is the exact reason why Im not even going to bother with the 2.6 class.


Dont get me wrong, it should be interesting to watch, just not fun to pull in. I know there are going to be a few trucks show up that are running 3.2 chargers with a 4mm bushing in them. Heck if I had the money I would be doing the same thing, so Im not.


But one thing I did notice is that there isnt a workstock class and it kinda molded into the 2.6 class......but when was a HUGE steped charger allowed in a street class like this?
 
Bosshawg600 said:
...........the bushing rule is the exact reason why Im not even going to bother with the 2.6 class.


Dont get me wrong, it should be interesting to watch, just not fun to pull in. I know there are going to be a few trucks show up that are running 3.2 chargers with a 4mm bushing in them. Heck if I had the money I would be doing the same thing, so Im not.


But one thing I did notice is that there isnt a workstock class and it kinda molded into the 2.6 class......but when was a HUGE steped charger allowed in a street class like this?
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I hope its a little bigger than 4mm!
 
better be at least 6mm LOL

These rules are a little retarded and everyone knows it. I just think people like to argue. Seriously there should be no way that my charger should be allowed in the 2.6 class, and if scheids rules where the same as last year i would not be able to pull, but with the new rule change im 100% legal. And really it kinda does suck for the guys running a true 2.6 charger, cause i think there was a huge HP difference from going from a true 2.6 charger to the one im running now!
 
Sounds like someone needs to buy more parts. Rules are rules, either build your truck to fit the rules or stay home. I really dont see a need for any discussion.$.02
 
Um he did buy new parts, a 3.4 charger thats why he dont fit in with the rules anymore.

Thing i dont get is the more we all complain about the rules changing weekly the more changes they seem to throw at us.

So now everyone that buys a 3.0 charger and has it bushed down to 2.6 is going to have to buy a new charger if they plan on pulling at TS next year.
 
I am with 2tone on this one,dodnt know why the mods jumped all over this since they dodnt know turbos and dodnt careLOL
I think to make it simple allow slugs for every class,could have a limit on the outside dim. of the turbo on the street trucks,thats how they tech the pro farm tractors at itpa$.02
 
I bet most people didn't read that in the 2.8 class you have to have a transmission blanket no matter what rpm your running. I know it bit alot of people at TS.
 
I have no problem with bushings in bigger classes. Like stated before, 2.8 class has been doing it for a while and it goes fine.....

But I think the line needs to be drawn at the 2.6 class. I gonna bring up the fact that the 2.6 class is still an entry class, and this is another HUGE step away from it. Bushings just allow for purpose built trucks to show up and woop up on the smaller guys that want to try and run big shows like this instead of their local fairs and brush pulls.


But the good thing is, Scheids is the only place I have seen a bushing allowed at the 2.6 level....so hopefully it doesnt catch on anywere else!!!
 
I agree 100% with bosshog ,just would take a little more time to tech,clipped wheel, stepped housing, etc
 
Bosshawg600 said:
I have no problem with bushings in bigger classes. Like stated before, 2.8 class has been doing it for a while and it goes fine.....

But I think the line needs to be drawn at the 2.6 class. I gonna bring up the fact that the 2.6 class is still an entry class, and this is another HUGE step away from it. Bushings just allow for purpose built trucks to show up and woop up on the smaller guys that want to try and run big shows like this instead of their local fairs and brush pulls.


But the good thing is, Scheids is the only place I have seen a bushing allowed at the 2.6 level....so hopefully it doesnt catch on anywere else!!!
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Anytime you have a competition with rules, someone will build their truck to the rules exactly and whoop up on everyone. That is the nature of competition. The only response is to make your truck run with them and build it to the letter of the rules or stop competing. I don't care how you change the rules it will always happen. The best solution is to make the class open to the most readily available options to make it more cost effective for anyone to step up to the plate and play.
 
HotRodTractor said:
Anytime you have a competition with rules, someone will build their truck to the rules exactly and whoop up on everyone. That is the nature of competition. The only response is to make your truck run with them and build it to the letter of the rules or stop competing. I don't care how you change the rules it will always happen. The best solution is to make the class open to the most readily available options to make it more cost effective for anyone to step up to the plate and play.
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Well kind of going with jeff (bosshog) I really want to pull 2.6 but with bushings and stepped covers in what is supposed to be a entry class it keeps some of the little guys like my self out because to pull 2.6 I need a ton of work and Workstock is no fun they are few and far between and its 2.6 trucks with dual pumps solid suspension and 750hp being trailered in. So why cant they measure external turbo size or have them certified for the sanctioning body. It just makes it hard for anyone that doesnt have 75k in there truck to be competitive. If you have that much money why arent you pulling 2.8 or 3.0. Anyway sorry for the derail
 
IMO there are way too many different rules/standards, and we need standardization so more folks can play, and play more often... gotta get competitor attendance & gate proceeds to keep increasing.

For every puller who consistently places for $ at a hook, there's a bunch of other guys who just like to drag the sled in front of a crowd... and their hook fees add up to much more.

Keep it simple IMO - aside from the necessary safety rules, split classes on weight - bring as much power as you can afford, and figure out the best way to give it traction. Trucks should be limited to 1 money spot per event, so more folks have a chance to win something and prevent a ringer from skimming the cream off of all the classes.

K.I.S.S.! :Cheer:
 
Im pretty disappointed in Scheids rules this year. Just doesnt seem like they were given much thought. I am going to pull anyways, because I had a blast last year, but Im about certain that there will be some mid pack 2.8 trucks that will take advantage of the rule and pull 2.6 instead. Yes, it will be legal according to the rules, but if I had a 2.8 truck and decided to pansy out and drop a class to try and whip up on some true 2.6 trucks, I would have a hard time feeling like I had accomplished much if I was able to pull out a win. Oh well, I guess its too late now for any rule changes to be made. It will be interesting to see the outcome of this weekends pull.
 
I'm guessing most of scheids truck run 3.0 chargers.... I don't think they made this rule just to give Anthony something to bizzzzatch about everyone knows he can find something on his ownLOLLOL:poke:
 
Kman9090 said:
I'm guessing most of scheids truck run 3.0 chargers.... I don't think they made this rule just to give Anthony something to bizzzzatch about everyone knows he can find something on his ownLOLLOL:poke:
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You got that right buddy!! Tyrel you know anyone that pulls with us or is going to Scheids this weekend for the 2.8 class and needs a blanket let me know. They are more than welcome to mine as I won't be needing it this weekend. Just as long as I get it back:rockwoot:
 
Who typically does the certification in a situation like that Smokem?? Is that a more common method than tagging the charger with a tamper-proof seal/lock/fastener after it's passed complete tech?
 
Smokem said:
If you are going to do the rules right, limit the compressor measurements and turbine measurements, have it certified, show the certificiation to pass tech. Most solidified pulling classes limit both sides of the charger. Bushing down big chargers is cheaper, but it allows too much variance to keep things even.
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100% agree.....but doing this kind of thing takes more work than what most people want to do.

That's why most threads like this are totally useless. Everyone knows what's best for the classes but nobody seriously wants to do anything about it.

IMO the odd rules at some of these "big" events are completely ego-driven.

The only way to put an end to stupid rules is to stay home.
 
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