Tired of 8000 lbs Classes

Sledpuller said:
I was going to ask you where are those pulls... but I see you are in Wyoming, no offense, you guys got some good running factory twins out there? Cause back here, there are still hiding underneath the porch from Chevys and Dodges!!

Overheard from a Chevy guy on CompD:"Ford people know they deserve a beating."

That guy is brutal.:hehe:
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so 600 hp isnt enough for work stock? how about 650 hp?
 
BIGRPOWR said:
still wondering how you did in your last pull.
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My last pull as a pinch driver in someone else 's truck, I was second by inches, last pull in my truck I was 4th. Both National points events.
Pullers tend to frown on me pulling when I'm officiating the event, go figure?
 
dzchey21 said:
so 600 hp isnt enough for work stock? how about 650 hp?
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Work Stock is stock appearing turbo and no hanging weights.

Next class up is 2.6, and no, 650 is not enough to win in 2.6, might get you top 10 if you know how to hook your truck really, really good!
 
How about every 100 pounds over 8000 you lose 2" of hitch height to a max of 8500 and 10 inches?, no hanging weight, or added ballast?
 
Sledpuller said:
You fat trucks will always have a place to pull at NADM- its called exhibition.

However, in WS we may start giving the Fords a handicap, heck we let em run factory twin turbos and they still cant get near a Chevy or a Dodge.
You guys need to petition Ford, or something, we've been waiting 20 years for you to show up on the track.

Show me some fat truck numbers,AT AN EVENT, and we'll listen, not just internet yapping.
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My predicition is that in 5 years, you may not believe you ever made that statement. I think Ford is going to turn their "Diesel Performance Image" around.
 
Sledpuller said:
How about every 100 pounds over 8000 you lose 2" of hitch height to a max of 8500 and 10 inches?, no hanging weight, or added ballast?
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Sounds like a good idea to me. :bow:


:poke: Some of the posters on here sound a little like Bama-Libs. The guy who builds the most successful truck gets kicked out, so the mediocre trucks win. Not good for the fans that support our habit.
Now that I think of it, it's sort of like the Cleveland Indians. If a player excels, he gets shipped out in order to maintain mediocrity. :hehe:
 
TrailerproPop said:
My predicition is that in 5 years, you may not believe you ever made that statement. I think Ford is going to turn their "Diesel Performance Image" around.
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BRING IT!!!!!!!No one would be happier than me to see Fords compete.

We may have to add a bonus system for the Fords.
 
Sledpuller said:
Work Stock is stock appearing turbo and no hanging weights.

Next class up is 2.6, and no, 650 is not enough to win in 2.6, might get you top 10 if you know how to hook your truck really, really good!
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I know that 650 isnt enough for 2.6 but i know that you can make 650 with stock apearing chargers that would meet all of the work stock rules, stock apearing injection pump ect ect... so what are you getting at? Ask bigrpowr how much his truck made on fuel only with stock "apearing" turbos?

I was even talking about making 650 on bone stock chargers, no internal modifications...
 
TrailerproPop said:
My predicition is that in 5 years, you may not believe you ever made that statement. I think Ford is going to turn their "Diesel Performance Image" around.
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With what? The 6.7?

Does anyone seriously believe that anyone will ever build a modern engine with as much "overage" and extra beef as the Cummins???

Current engineers all seem to be focused on #1 - emissions, and #2, weight savings.

The 5.9 CTD is almost the diametric opposite of that.

Other brands will get close from time to time, with 10X the dollars spent, but that old dreadnaught is one tough SOB.
 
nwpadmax said:
With what? The 6.7?

Does anyone seriously believe that anyone will ever build a modern engine with as much "overage" and extra beef as the Cummins???

Current engineers all seem to be focused on #1 - emissions, #2, weight savings, and #3, cost(driven by the bean counters of coarse)

The 5.9 CTD is almost the diametric opposite of that.

Other brands will get close from time to time, with 10X the dollars spent, but that old dreadnaught is one tough SOB.
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nwpadmax said:
With what? The 6.7?

Does anyone seriously believe that anyone will ever build a modern engine with as much "overage" and extra beef as the Cummins???

Current engineers all seem to be focused on #1 - emissions, and #2, weight savings.

The 5.9 CTD is almost the diametric opposite of that.

Other brands will get close from time to time, with 10X the dollars spent, but that old dreadnaught is one tough SOB.
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A 6.4 does 600rwhp on a bone stock stock engine, turbo, AND trans. With nothing more than headstuds the engine will go 750ish, maybe even more.

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I complained for years, ask sleddy. Finally gave up and made it a full time puller, pulled last year at Scheids with 400# hangin and was 60# shy of 8k and placed 10th in 2.8 with a broken axel.(I call that competing Sleddy) This year I fgure I will be able to hang around 6-700#'s in a 8k class. if you are serious with a Ford you will have to get creative with the wieght loss, I have pulled piles of worthless brackets and wires off the truck. a 5lb bracket may not seem like much and seem useless to take off but you start adding that stuff up and pretty soon you are makin wieght and hangin some.

The hitch hieght handi cap I think is ok, would atleast let someone pull if they were slightly overwieght and travled a long ways. Been there experianced that.
 
imelmo said:
A 6.4 does 600rwhp on a bone stock stock engine, turbo, AND trans. With nothing more than headstuds the engine will go 750ish, maybe even more.

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I don't disgree. But the combine motor can do 1000 without messing with it and 1200 with simple-assed stuff, and they were doing it 10 years ago or more.

This modern stuff is good. But it ain't great. 1000hp on a p-pump CTD is a recipe. 1000hp on anything else is "maybe". And I mean fuel-only.

Besides, this is CompD. Should anyone really be impressed about how much you can do with a tuner? For streety trucks that is all fine and good, but that's not really what we're talking about here.
 
Sledpuller said:
Awesome!!

Hook it to a sled, mid pack at best.
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Yeah, seriously, wasn't there supposed to be some whoopdeedoo badass 6.4s at TS? Where were they?

* sound of crickets *

The 6.4 camp needs to put the words into action on the sledpulling track at some point. But the hot ones all seem to be keeping to the streets for some reason. Or maybe the plan is to dominate work stock, and TS didn't have work stock?

And I'll toss this out there, why not let the Fords run 8500 in 2.6 and 2.8?
 
I am currently the only truck even running a single turbo on a 6.4, so its going to be awhile before you see too many 6.4s in the 2.6 or 2.8 classes

I mean look at it this way, if you bought a brand new truck would you want to make a dedicated puller out of it right out of the box? I sure as fuk cant afford to do that.

I would have loved to pull at TS, but i was there for the diesel power challenge, had way too big of a turbo to be in any pulling classes. Next year i would like to make it and run 2.6. Im not going to make any promises though...
 
bdp said:
I complained for years, ask sleddy.

he aint lyin!!!
Finally gave up and made it a full time puller, pulled last year at Scheids with 400# hangin and was 60# shy of 8k and placed 10th in 2.8 with a broken axel.(I call that competing Sleddy)
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I have always bowed down to you and House as the only Ford sled pulling gods on the planet!! Now House got smart and you are the only one left!!
10th at SDX, is nothing shy of magnificent in a Dodge and a miracle in a Ford..

Wyoming, I'll be out there August 7th.
 
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