Truckers, lets see your rigs!

inline6359 said:
Maybe I’m used to pa, and other states are different. But is factory gcwr not considered in other states to be the limiting factor when it comes down to it?
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no there is no Fed regulation on GCVWR.. GVWR is axles added together
 
jfaulkner said:
Still think you need to do this.
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eh... I have a full air brake/air ride 25,500lb GVW 1999 FL60 as part of my fleet now.. to say I haven't thought about putting a 48SD behind it would be a lie... defiantly chewed the idea of a 48' SD or a custom 40' with a set forward spread and 17.5/19.5 tires to keep the ~35" deck height.. it would definitely allow me to haul some the 20k-30k lb stamping dies around vs tying up a full truck..

double A trailers out of Edmonton Alberta make mini SD with king pin if you will, up to 53' and 3-15k axles with EOH/air ride and lift axles.. all with a MFG/fabricated beam style frame. have couple quoted from them.. GN and SD versions..

speaking of Kauffman... they advertise building custom trailers on the website.... they have redesigned a lot their trailers and given them GVWR which include hitch capacities as well.. no EOH or air ride advertised still doubt ill buy another Kauffman for commercial flatbed work
 
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regcanfan said:
The problem is, you can haul the weight, the pickups are set up with enough power to pull it, but have an oh s**t moment and its game over. We haul 30-35k gross with a dually and tandem dual trailer. We bought a freightliner m2 112 to put on the trailer, and you all of a sudden realize you really didn't have much control over your trailer and weight.

Don't get me wrong, pickup and trailers have there place, but it was an eye opener.
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I went from a class 4 (99 C3500HD)to class 3 07.5 Chevy 3500, then class 6 99 23,000GVW FL60 with a 8.3 Cummins..
I ran 16" tires for ~55,000lbs then when to 19.5 or 22.5 pending which truck I was running..
I've ran electric brakes and EOH..
E-brakes are usually plauged with small wire which causes voltage drop and weak magnet strength.. plus random magnet failures.. everything I pull now is EOH disc brakes with 11" Dexter or 13" Kodiak disc.. never had a stopping issue.. with EOH brakes...

Outside air ride suspension on the FL60 andb~50% more TQ and 13sp trans I don't slow down as much as the other two trucks..
The class 3/4 trucks are GVWR at 36k FL60 is 43k but still drags the same 30k trailer
 
Rig Wrench said:
Why soo many yellow trees? Truck stop lizards leavin there legs open in the cab?
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Things have gone too far now. I acquired too many trees and now there is a forest Ranger living in them. I’m afraid to get rid of them because it might be considered illegal logging and I’m sure someone could find an endangered something living in them.

And honestly think of all the things you can see on truck dashes and tell me air fresheners are the worst.
 
malibu795 said:
trailer weighs more than 7500lbs if you are just going off weight on trailer tires... add another ~2000lbs putting more the 20,000lbs on the deck something is most likely over loaded...

the other would be what the coupler is rated for.. biggest 2 5/16 is 9k/30K 9k vertical and 30k gross trailer which hitch weight + axle weight.. figured I make that clear since there are a lot out there that think trailer weight is only weight between the ground and trailer tires :doh:

avg GN coupler is 7.5k/25k kit

there's few that have a GN hitch rated for 9k/30K

AFAIK no one officially makes a GN hitch with a 10k/40K rating with a 3" ball..

B&W make a 3" version but its 7.5K/30k

im reading some of the lastest OEM trucks are coming with 3" GN balls now factory equipped.. ford is running a 3" reciever hitch im sure dodge and and GM are close behind and capable of close to 20K on a bumper pull...

un a goose doesn't exist anymore they where rated at 20k/60k

Wallace Forge Company

they make a 2 5/16 and 3" both with 2' thick shanks rated at 30000lbs, and 40,000lbs... they do make a 2 5/16-1 3/8 shank rated at 40,000lbs as well

as for the scales.. I was referring to the CAT/certified scales.. quarries don't really care that much about actual weight.. as in whether its reading heavy or light... the scale usually doesn't change in the short time a bucket is into get loaded and back out....







seen several hotshots run props. on the bigger ones either they need a double drop/RGN or a SD with 17.5/19.5 to get 33-36" deck height to keep from hitting OS regs.. smaller ones I have seen in the back on a 2500 truck stacked 3 wide on racks..



I know a few guys that have found a way to wiggle around the axle ratings rules... not on the big stuff but the little stuff.. not going to get into it because I don't condone it.
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They haul the 11’ props for the C130’s on small aluminum bumper pull trailers. They have cut as much weight as they can to keep everything under 10k. They even mentioned modifying the truck beds to allow for the blades to go through the floor so they can lose the trailer all together.
 
Hey Malibu...
How has the FL60 been treating you lately?
You have not posted much in your other thread about the build.
Just wondering. TNX.
 
jfaulkner said:
They haul the 11’ props for the C130’s on small aluminum bumper pull trailers. They have cut as much weight as they can to keep everything under 10k. They even mentioned modifying the truck beds to allow for the blades to go through the floor so they can lose the trailer all together.
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Seen some deck over specialty trailers that the floor is dropped/modifed to set couple blades through the deck..
I'm sure it wouldn't be hard..most low deck GN run 24-26" decks.. most livestock trailers are under 20" decks... 13'6" is 162" get past Mississippi River and STD height is 14' or 168"..

Crdth..
I'll update it...
Edit I was it's locked lol... So here
Bent the frame.. putting new rails in and fixing the back of the cab where the rust holes are near the cab suspension..
Was Quoted ~$1000.00 to bend the framed straight again.. with the amount of pitting and holes that have been drilled into it... It just doesn't sound like a good idea...Bent the area underneath the blue job box/tool box possibly tweaked the crossmember the cab suspension mounts two.. PS rail is bent more than the DS and the gap isn't uniform between the two rails..
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Other '99 FL60 I bought originally a 5.9(vp44)/6sp 8k/17.5k axles 3.21 gears no-spin locker 186" wb had bud wheels in the front and hub in the back... Front has been swapped to hub pilot
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Weighed it today. 16,540 lbs with me in it (220 lbs), and full of fuel. Unhooked the trailer on the scales and it weighs 7,100 lbs.
 

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TNX Malibu. How much did you score the blue day cab FL60 for?
Is it going to be a parts donor for your main ride?
I have looked for a long while to find one to turn into a nice rv hauler, prices on a new SportChasis just about gives one a heart attack these days.
 
crdth said:
TNX Malibu. How much did you score the blue day cab FL60 for?
Is it going to be a parts donor for your main ride?
I have looked for a long while to find one to turn into a nice rv hauler, prices on a new SportChasis just about gives one a heart attack these days.
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2500.00..
Already got a parts truck..
like to have both FL60s up and serviceable ultimately with same engine/trans.
The blue FL60s frame is in a lot getting condition than my white fl60
 
5,760 lbs on the steer axle, 9,860 lbs on the drive axle, 27,060 lbs on the trailer axles.
 

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bracker8040 said:
5,760 lbs on the steer axle, 9,860 lbs on the drive axle, 27,060 lbs on the trailer axles.
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10k/12k axles?

While that hutch suspension doesn't care.. those bearings/rims and possibly tires are hating life..
Along with the coupler
42000lb gross and truck is just under 10k.
Rough math trailer gross is ~32000lbs yeah you're overloaded

GD 10k e-brakes are 12.25*3.375
HD 10k e brakes are 12.25*4
12/15k brakes are 12.24*5"
 
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malibu795 said:
10k/12k axles?

While that hutch suspension doesn't care.. those bearings/rims and possibly tires are hating life..
Along with the coupler
42000lb gross and truck is just under 10k.
Rough math trailer gross is ~32000lbs yeah you're overloaded
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10k axles, load range G tires all the way around.
 
bracker8040 said:
10k axles, load range G tires all the way around.
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G range 16" tires should be around ~3600lb in dually setup for and ~4000lb as single setup at 110psi... Most steel rims are rated for max psi of 90
3600*8 is 28,000lbs
Hopefully rims have 3500+lb ratings as well... should be stamped with weigh and at what psi

Which leaves brakes/bearings, 30,000lb coupler and GN ball being over capacity...
 
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