14mm ve pump

Consistent, better results on the track.

Jon Link built them for him. Too bad he aint around anymore.
 
One, maybe? They didn't **** all over your suggestion of DVs, they provided factual flow numbers of what our current DV selection provides.

If you had mentioned other DV options, or some other pump behaviors that you think different DV cuts could provide the VE, it may have been better received.

Do you know of any other options we may have in the DV area of our pumps?
 
Tacoclaw said:
they provided factual flow numbers of what our current DV selection provides.
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Which showed that flow decreased with RPM. Way more to that story than flow.

Tacoclaw said:
Do you know of any other options we may have in the DV area of our pumps?
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No. Like I said, we went to a P7100, Jeff continued with the VE. I'm sure it isn't something that couldn't be done again.
 
rednsilver90 said:
Can you go into more detail?
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How was this rating reached? Through a test orifice or an injector? Was the pressure at the nozzle tested? These things would tell us more about why we are seeing the drop in flow.

To increase pressure you must restrict flow. Now since the flow decreased does that mean the pressure increased due to restriction at the nozzle? Or did the flow decrease because the pumping efficiency of the plunger also decreased while the RPM increased as a result of poor charge time/lack of supply fuel? One seems much more practical than the other, but is it the more commonly accepted idea?

Also the orifice sizing is never the restriction in the nozzle, it is always the needle.
 
I do wonder if a faster ramp and longer time between ramps on the cam plate would help much.
 
No one takes to time to do research to something that might not be that popular and profitable.
 
Indeed, so we're back to providing our pumps with fuel without losing our dynamic timing.

I don't think anyone's trying to compete with the VE, so we're not that worried about how far behind a P-pump or CR we are. We're just trying to get the most we can out of them.

Some suggestions and parts-naming is all we're looking for, to brainstorm ideas.
 
oldestof11 said:
No one takes to time to do research to something that might not be that popular and profitable.
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Everyone wants a P-pump with the progressive timing characteristics of the VE. I think a 14mm VE that was proven reliable up to 4k rpms would have a market.

It would not replace the P-pump for competition trucks seeking higher horsepower levels.

Biggest draw back to the demand for such a VE is that 1st gens are becoming more and more rare.

BTW, I am agreeing with you, just putting it in my own words.
 
I really think that Carl's supercharger/turbo setup would be ideal for a ve truck, at least a street truck anyway.

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I'm planning to run a supercharger/turbo setup to try and bring the power in lower and use more of the fuel.
 
Smokie Okie said:
Everyone wants a P-pump with the progressive timing characteristics of the VE. I think a 14mm VE that was proven reliable up to 4k rpms would have a market.

It would not replace the P-pump for competition trucks seeking higher horsepower levels.

Biggest draw back to the demand for such a VE is that 1st gens are becoming more and more rare.

BTW, I am agreeing with you, just putting it in my own words.
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Most 1st Gen guys are cheap...will they pay $3K + injectors to get over 500hp?

Chris
 
Signature600 said:
Most 1st Gen guys are cheap...will they pay $3K + injectors to get over 500hp?

Chris
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I am guilty of this accusation. However, I drive 1st gens because that is the body style I prefer not because of the level of performance I am looking for. I recently dropped twice that amount on my truck to start moving it towards the hp levels I am looking for. If one of these VE's would have been available at the time, it would have been ordered before some of the other upgrade parts (That were ordered in October and I am still waiting on).

Like I said before. I agree with the original statement that there would not be a large market for these pumps but, if someone figured it out, proved it would last and was willing to produce more than just for personal use, I think they could recover the money they had invested and maybe come out ahead.
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I do think there would be a market for such a pump, but it would be a small one. The P-pump is a proven contender, even with fixed timing and the VE can be pushed to 500hp without any exotic tricks.

500hp is plenty for a street-driven vehicle that would benefit the most from the variable timing.

IMO of course.
 
Just read posts 193-194-195 and I have a question; what 5.9L makes peak hp over 4k RPM? You guys want to double or triple the cost of the air setup why? Just because a P7100 can efficiently turn more RPM does not mean it makes hp there. A properly sized set of twins should easily do the job. I've seen 75/106mm twins make peak power under 3800RPM.
 
just having the broader powerband would be nice tho. it might not make peak power up there but not having the power fall off a cliff once it gets a lil over 3k would be great. i think the supercharger idea would be sweet. instant boost would really help the heavy fueling down low on the ve.
 
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