EFILive Beta First Impressions

dieselduck said:
That's why I asked the Question.

I was wondering if a basicly smoke free tune was possible?

I have read about the possibility of future "switchable" tunes, like on the Duramax, and the possibility of a smoke free street tune as one of the switchable options.

Has any of the Beta testers tuned any highly modded trucks yet?
Just curious.
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Highly modded - no, I have not. Brayden from Fleece Performance has on a fairly well modded truck though I believe - it was the truck used to break the 5000 RPM mark with a stock ECM and EFILive....

I have been testing an 07 manual truck with an II modded pump and injectors but on a stock turbo. This truck had HORRIBLE rattle, even at idle before i started. Now i'd say it's every bit as quiet as stock, short of the exhaust. This was on Gary's truck, of SBS Diesel. He has been very happy with the testing.

I have also been testing on a twinned 07 with cp3 mods (bag of parts) and stock sticks. There is no rattle (to be expected though) and lots of HP in this truck. That's as big as i've personally worked on with the Dodges so far, but I by no means am speaking for any other testers. Just my personal pick for test trucks to start feeling out the Dodges with EFILive and get accustomed to the differences and similarities between Dodge and GM.
 
dieselduck said:
*NO* smoke you speak of, is this possible with a heavily modified (big inj,twins,ext) truck as well?

I ask because the truck you describe sounds mostly stock.
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I apologize for not answering your question better. Looks like someone else mostly beat me to it.

I have a belief that *MOST* trucks with proper mods (let's call them matched mods), regardless of what they might be - should be able to produce a *mostly* clean tune.

Now if we get into heavily modded trucks - running very large singles and big sticks, dual modded CP3s etc.... It is going to be much harder to both light the chargers and have it be smoke free. This goes in the Duramax world as well, as i'm sure everyone here has witnessed.

However, what we CAN accomplish with EFILive IMO on these monster, purpose built trucks, is to get them lit - much quicker - and cleaner than previously possible. Even on trucks with say very large sticks and pumps, but not enough air - we can still control the smoke output generally, by reducing fueling or changing timing or a combination of all these.

I think it's hard to say in every situation we can make a truck smoke free.... I personally don't feel I can on every truck given the variety of setups. What I am confident in saying is that a given truck will have the ability to match its potential with tuning specific for that truck and mods - and as such, might smoke like a freight train or hardly at all based on the owners / tuners choice :-)

Hoping that doesn't come out wrong. I have a bad habbit of not communicating well sometimes - but hopefully there's enough there to give you the answer you were hunting for.

Zach
 
Here's some food for thought, look at this link for the top 50 Dmax's and look how many are tuned with EFI. This past weekend in Redding the winner of Pro Stock (8.7 ET) winner of Super Street and the winner of Super Diesel were tuned by me using EFI.

Fastest Duramax List - Page 46 - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together

EFI dominates in street, drag racing and sled pulling with the Duramax and will do the same with the Cummins.
 
IdahoRob said:
Here's some food for thought, look at this link for the top 50 Dmax's and look how many are tuned with EFI. This past weekend in Redding the winner of Pro Stock (8.7 ET) winner of Super Street and the winner of Super Diesel were tuned by me using EFI.

Fastest Duramax List - Page 46 - Competition Diesel.Com - Bringing The BEST Together

EFI dominates in street, drag racing and sled pulling with the Duramax and will do the same with the Cummins.
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That's the best way to put it yet Rob! :-)
 
I downloaded V7.5.6 and have been reading through some of the tutorials in an attempt to figure out WTH I'm looking at. I saw that the DSP stands for Duramax Switchable Performance and I know switchable tunes are way down the line, but will the name change as well?

Now I see why the tunes are so expensive!
 
chizwizdiz said:
I downloaded V7.5.6 and have been reading through some of the tutorials in an attempt to figure out WTH I'm looking at. I saw that the DSP stands for Duramax Switchable Performance and I know switchable tunes are way down the line, but will the name change as well?

Now I see why the tunes are so expensive!
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I found my answer in the FAQ thread. CSP?

Does any tuner have any suggestions for a beginner? Right now, I'm comparing a stock LBZ tune to a tow LBZ tune.
 
chizwizdiz said:
I found my answer in the FAQ thread. CSP?

Does any tuner have any suggestions for a beginner? Right now, I'm comparing a stock LBZ tune to a tow LBZ tune.
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First thing I would do to a stock tune is smooth out the timing and rail pressure tables. Made my truck much easier to drive and gave a small kick in the pants.
 
IdahoRob said:
Auto trans, totally stock truck with 285/70/17's.

There is no fuel rattle, engine is smoother/quieter than stock.

I really did not like this truck until this trip. I'm spoiled having a twin turbo Duramax usually towing the same load. The tunes really came around and made me like this truck.

Mileage was 10-11 towing the load 25,700 lbs going from sea-level (Redding) to over 5000+' and then to Boise, some in 4x4 (snow) Defrost on most of the time. There was not 10 miles that the truck had a steady peddle. Twists and climbing (2 lane the whole trip). I expect this to go up 20-30% next weekend with tuning adjustments and more normal highway driving. I'll post the results good or bad after the trip this next weekend.
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Rob how is the test trip coming along any new findings?


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Not leaving until early Friday AM. Just got back last night from the last one.
 
chizwizdiz said:
I found my answer in the FAQ thread. CSP?

Does any tuner have any suggestions for a beginner? Right now, I'm comparing a stock LBZ tune to a tow LBZ tune.
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On a Dmax or Cummins? The duramax is very smooth stock compared to the Cummins. As Wes said, smooth and add 10% to fuel, boost and timing, leaving idle area alone and test.
 
IdahoRob said:
Not leaving until early Friday AM. Just got back last night from the last one.
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Hope it went well. How is the fuel mileage with the cummins compared to the dmax with that type of load?


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IdahoRob said:
Not leaving until early Friday AM. Just got back last night from the last one.
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Are you going to change the tune to a more aggressive tune or less than the first tune to again better fuel mileage or more power to pull that heavy load up grade to climb with ez? LOL Thats alot of weight


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2007 5.9 said:
First thing I would do to a stock tune is smooth out the timing and rail pressure tables. Made my truck much easier to drive and gave a small kick in the pants.
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Got it, thanks!

IdahoRob said:
On a Dmax or Cummins? The duramax is very smooth stock compared to the Cummins. As Wes said, smooth and add 10% to fuel, boost and timing, leaving idle area alone and test.
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I was looking over the dmax tunes (stock vs. tow) from this forum just to familiarize myself with the program.
 
There are a few new video's on our facebook page today - they demonstrate how simple smoothing changes everything.

Cheers
Cindy
 
Crawl out of your cave and get FB my man!! Lol, that's what everybody kept telling me. I assume that EFI will publicly announce release via FB too? I stay up to speed there more than I do here day to day.
 
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