EFILive will read Dodges.

Charles said:
And if the Smarty is reflashing the ECU, then what is so special about EFI live then? Obviously whomever is writing the programs stored in the Smarty already has access to the memory in the ECU. And unless they simply aren't as good at uncovering code as the EFI live guys are, nothing will change.
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That's like saying that only one person has made diesel performance what it is. Marco has done a lot for setting up good tunes. But most of the time, more input isn't exactly a bad thing. Plus it's set up for a broad spectrum of power levels. If they could custom tune for the absolute best setup possible with the mods they have, it would only help.

And it's not like it would kill the Smarty. Majority of people out there just want to push a button and have all that power. They don't want to sit there on a laptop trying to figure out how to make more power.
 
I think that a lot of people are forgetting that EFI Live is only as good as the person behind the keyboard. The first time you open the software it can be very overwhelming and if you do not have pre-made files to reference to then you are truly lost. It takes a lot of time and trail and error to build a good tune. It is great that EFI is making progress on the cummins, but it will still be hard to the everyday person to write a good file. If they can open up the RPM's on the cummins though I might be switching brands.
 
If it follows the route that EFILive did with the Duramaxes, this is what will happen:

First there will be just a few people selling flashed ECM's using EFILive to flash them.
Next, there will be a few people selling EFILive and including a free tune with it, developed on a dyno, that will get you 95% max power. You will fine tune it yourself for the other 5% or use it as is.
Then there will be dozens of different tuning shops selling it and including a tune or access to a tune library.

There will be people holding tuning classes, and lots of shared information available on the internet.

It will not replace handheld's, harness boxes, or pre-flashed ECM's. It will just expand things. For those who want the best tools, they will have one in their toolbox.
 
So EFI should be able to unlock the ECM and make all parameters available for change and monitoring?

Similar to the control of the bosch stand alone?

making 5000rmp attainable for around $800
 
FST_DSL said:
So EFI should be able to unlock the ECM and make all parameters available for change and monitoring?

Similar to the control of the bosch stand alone?

making 5000rmp attainable for around $800
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What all tables and parameters we will have access to remains to be determined. What RPM can be attained is yet to be determined also. There maybe more or maybe not. If the fueling, and timing tables end at 4000 rpm your not going to go much past that. But until we get a release we will not know.
 
O boy can't wait to see this. I just hope they can make it work for the older cr truck's or at least an 05!! :hehe: :hehe:
 
just a note on how the diesel guys get treated with efilive, the lbz guys waited for 2 years just to get the dsp 5 feature that just came out. They are great guys with an awsome product but diesels are not their top priority so dont expect anything major to come out quick for the cummins.
 
Bob Wagner said:
My money as usual is on Marco, His next product release will be the tuning everyone is asking for.

Thanks
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Here we go again... more empty promises. You will never learn Bob. :bang

Anyone else feel like the wholesale price on Smartys just went from $500 to $300? :hehe:

EFI for Cummins = :rockwoot:
 
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FST_DSL said:
So EFI should be able to unlock the ECM and make all parameters available for change and monitoring?

Similar to the control of the bosch stand alone?

making 5000rmp attainable for around $800
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No, with EFILife you still have limits ... rpm's and fuel are still the limits. You can fake the fuel and rail pressure but not the rpm's ...

All my D-Max projects are running over 5k rpm (most 6.5k rpm), which EFIlive cant hold up ...

Also Bosch doesn't go that hi in RPM's
 
Bob Wagner said:
My money as usual is on Marco, His next product release will be the tuning everyone is asking for.

Thanks
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wow! what a coincidence. all of a sudden the smarty is coming with a new product. marco probably has had this software in his back pocket the whole time, but now since something else is passing up his software, marco is now putting it out.
 
HIGH TECH RAM said:
John Has been speeking very highly of you. Look forward to seeing whats up your sleeve
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That's my priority of next month ... John's truck with a stand alone and hope 1000+ ponies ... wiring harness is done!!!
 
Camotanker said:
Here we go again... more empty promises. You will never learn Bob. :bang

Anyone else feel like the wholesale price on Smartys just went from $500 to $300? :hehe:

EFI for Cummins = :rockwoot:
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do you EVER post anything that doesn't make you sound like a douchebag ?

If you twist Bobs name again I'll just get rid of you for good.
 
what would be nice is if Big Stuff stepped up to the plate and would start working on some standalone engine management for us diesel guys.
 
mde said:
No, with EFILife you still have limits ... rpm's and fuel are still the limits. You can fake the fuel and rail pressure but not the rpm's ...

All my D-Max projects are running over 5k rpm (most 6.5k rpm), which EFIlive cant hold up ...

Also Bosch doesn't go that hi in RPM's
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Oh i believe the DPD pulling truck running the bosch stand alone is running at 5k plus!
 
mde said:
No, with EFILife you still have limits ... rpm's and fuel are still the limits. You can fake the fuel and rail pressure but not the rpm's ...

All my D-Max projects are running over 5k rpm (most 6.5k rpm), which EFIlive cant hold up ...

Also Bosch doesn't go that hi in RPM's
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EFILive will go past 5250 rpm at full power in a Duramax. Pat normally shifts at 4500 for best performance, but accidently set the shift points too high, so it went through the traps at 122 mph in fourth gear at Bakersfield. The datalog said 5250 when he lifted. Others have run higher.

You shouldn't make up stuff about EFILive. There's too many people who know better.
 
I, for one, am happy to hear this. I love hot rodded diesels regardless of brand, and anything that pushes the envelope forward, I'm for. I hope it comes about quickly, for you Cummins guys who've been waiting for this. But, like has been said, just having it doesn't mean anything. Lots of trial and error involved, and if you don't have the time to tinker (or money for a new block if you blow it up) you can always have someone tune it. That's what I did.
Can't wait to see what the future holds!
 
X2 on the Big Stuff getting involved, I own one for my gasser drag car, making 1000 HP N/A, very user friendly, data aquisition built in, But, gasser DIY tuners have been evolving for 15-20 years, it's gonna take some time! Still looking forward to this!
 
Did someone at Bosch Fire a disgruntled engineer? Then he sold all the secrets to everyone that would pay?

All within a short amount of Time I have heard about EFI Live for Cummins, Banks is going to allow user modified tables in the new IQ and Smarty will have the ultimate of custom Cummins tuning.
Question is: who will be the first with an actual USEABLE product?
Anyone taking bets or laying odds?
 
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