Replacing the 6.4 with a 24v Cummins???

twisted powerst said:
yeah the reason is bc the cummins be out forever and they have all the parts in the world for them that goes back to my first post the 5.9 cummins has been out alot longer then the 6.4 and as more and more parts come out for the 6.4 there will be more pullers with them as of not holding up the guys a mpd r not having any problems them holding up and look i am not going to argue with u dont need twins or 80 pounds of boost to make 1000 horsepower they r making it with a single s475
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What school did you go to, I'm just curious.
 
twisted powerst said:
yeah the reason is bc the cummins be out forever and they have all the parts in the world for them that goes back to my first post the 5.9 cummins has been out alot longer then the 6.4 and as more and more parts come out for the 6.4 there will be more pullers with them as of not holding up the guys a mpd r not having any problems them holding up and look i am not going to argue with u dont need twins or 80 pounds of boost to make 1000 horsepower they r making it with a single s475
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Do you really think the 6.4 is going to retain the aftermarket support it has now considering there is already an add on compound kit for the 6.7 from two companies.

That's pretty darn fast compared to how long it took elite to bring a turbo option to market for the 6.4.

Plus these engines aren't staying together.

And the biggest kicker is price. For what you named for 1000hp. Which I think is optimistic. You seriously have;
$7k elite trans
$2k dual fuelers
$2k low press elite system
$3500 mpd single.

So $14500 without labor.

When you look at it this way it seems pretty pricey for an engine with no girdle or rods or even the price if studs factored in. Or tuning.

Anything can be done with money
 
jkidd_39 said:
Do you really think the 6.4 is going to retain the aftermarket support it has now considering there is already an add on compound kit for the 6.7 from two companies.

That's pretty darn fast compared to how long it took elite to bring a turbo option to market for the 6.4.

Plus these engines aren't staying together.

And the biggest kicker is price. For what you named for 1000hp. Which I think is optimistic. You seriously have;
$7k elite trans
$2k dual fuelers
$2k low press elite system
$3500 mpd single.

So $14500 without labor.

When you look at it this way it seems pretty pricey for an engine with no girdle or rods or even the price if studs factored in. Or tuning.

Anything can be done with money
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ok this is from industrail injection for your great 6.7 bud
twin cp3 ..... 2716.00
r1 100 hp nozzles....700.00
twin turbos s 480 kit 3995.00
suncoast built trans ....6299.00
suncoast coverter....1355.00
well that all adds up to a 15,060 and guess what thats a big whooping 850 at the wheels i think point proven bud :rockwoot:
 
twisted powerst said:
ok this is from industrail injection for your great 6.7 bud
twin cp3 ..... 2716.00
r1 100 hp nozzles....700.00
twin turbos s 480 kit 3995.00
suncoast built trans ....6299.00
suncoast coverter....1355.00
well that all adds up to a 15,060 and guess what thats a big whooping 850 at the wheels i think point proven bud :rockwoot:
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Well actually I was refering to the 6.4 build against a 5.9 CR. But yes. Any ford V8 diesel will struggle against an inline 6 cummins.

An engine is only an air pump. Don't you think one head is going to do things much more efficiently than two heads?? Won't the rotating assembly hold up bc a huge amount of the block(all of it) is surrounding the cylinders??

I hope you love your 6.4. Mine is great and terrible all at the same time. Even if we don't have the best engine we will always have a better built cab/chassis.
 
And FYI. II is a joke for fords. They can't build anything right. There market is the cummins platform. There are much better and economical options out there.
 
as far as power u tell me how many in line 6 cylinder funny cars u see or top fuel drag rails none u want to know y because they r running v8 which has 2 heads like a 6.4 does i mite be wrong but they r big air pumps also but what the hell they prolly dont know how to make horsepower and them prices r about the same for a 5.9 common rail also
 
jkidd_39 said:
An engine is only an air pump. Don't you think one head is going to do things much more efficiently than two heads?? Won't the rotating assembly hold up bc a huge amount of the block(all of it) is surrounding the cylinders??
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Huh??
 
me2 said:
That is a totally different scenario.

The exhaust brake is a potato in the exhaust. Its basically plugged. No airflow.

Turbo backpressure is followed on the intake stroke with a ton of manifold pressure, which equals lots of airflow.

Lets say you have 75 PSI of backpressure from the turbo. By the time the piston goes to the bottom of the intake stroke, that gas is at about 5 PSI. Meanwhile the incoming cool air is at 70 PSI. What is the problem ?

The biggest part of the problem is probably people running turbos way outside their map, resulting in really hot manifold air temps.
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Valve overlap. Google it.
 
twisted powerst said:
as far as power u tell me how many in line 6 cylinder funny cars u see or top fuel drag rails none u want to know y because they r running v8 which has 2 heads like a 6.4 does i mite be wrong but they r big air pumps also but what the hell they prolly dont know how to make horsepower and them prices r about the same for a 5.9 common rail also
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You do realize there is more to engine design than V vs. inline right? Fukin trolls....

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Id put a cr cummins in it and not worry about pulling it back apart...6.4 are a pain in the ass to work on and they are more $ plain simple! hp an be had pretty equaly.... all you guys that are saying a programmer and thats it you must have forgot about the first 30000 you spent for the truck.. I thnk $ to $ cr cummins is the way to go. stock motor to stock motor the cr cummins will hold its own.. I made 934 with stock bottem end.. stock cam made 880. that was with a single 475.... these big hp fords are simply spraying the sack of there truck.. let me know how it runs in 2-3 years!
 
6.4 guys getting there panties in a bunch cause a guy wants to put a cr cummins in his ford.. omg!
 
i would take a 500hp realiable easy to work on cummins in an ford over a 600hp cant work on chit motor thats no so reliable. no arguments the fords are making some power. easily the best truck to run high 12s and make 600 wheel with the least amount of work and money involved. it just comes down to what each guy likes. i love my 700hp twin turbo vp truck. simple to work on, still get 19.7mpg and is reliable besides the vp. you guys dont like them but they are great for a 600 dd truck when they work. you guys say its a pile, yes but say 1k a pop when it goes out, only takes about an hour to change and i could take that 13k it cost to replace a 6.4 and buy a chit load of vps lol. to each his own i guess.
 
twisted powerst said:
as far as power u tell me how many in line 6 cylinder funny cars u see or top fuel drag rails none u want to know y because they r running v8 which has 2 heads like a 6.4 does i mite be wrong but they r big air pumps also but what the hell they prolly dont know how to make horsepower and them prices r about the same for a 5.9 common rail also
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Your posts make no sense to me. Would it kill you to use some punctuation?
 
Jeebus...

It is very apparent I need to go back to school to learn to read the garbage these kids spew these days. :bang
 
twisted powerst said:
as far as power u tell me how many in line 6 cylinder funny cars u see or top fuel drag rails none u want to know y because they r running v8 which has 2 heads like a 6.4 does i mite be wrong but they r big air pumps also but what the hell they prolly dont know how to make horsepower and them prices r about the same for a 5.9 common rail also
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Dont tell Titan Motorsports this....
 
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