Swole's Infamy of Carnage Continues!!

D45 said:
So why then would you change the 03/04 8 hole nozzle design and run a 5 hole 03/04 nozzle design in your Flux series nozzles.....

What are the benefits?

Why are you making 5 hole 03/04 nozzles, while other companies make 8 hole 03/04 nozzles?
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The reason everyone else uses a 8 hole is because thats all they have. The stock Bosch nozzle is 8 holes. There is a 6 hole Bosch nozzle that some guys are using, but it is not that good, IMO. It has issues with it I dont like.

5 holes turned out to be the best design for what we were wanting to do on the performance side. We have used them since May 2004.

No failures between 2004 to 2007. A few in 2008. Multiple failures have happened since late 2008 until now. About the time blocked rails and high pressure pumps came on the scene. Roughly 20 or less total failed nozzles out of 6000 plus pieces produced and sold.
 
SuperiorRam said:
Let's beat around the bush both of ya
I can't tell who does it more Don or Weston?
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I don't see the beating around the bush from Weston. Please explain. If you read you would be asking the same questions he does. Though he may know the answers already he asks them so people become informed and vendors are held accountable for work they do. Even when he asks the question you can go back on previous threads or make phone calls and find out answers. He even gives them chances to answer and make things right.
 
SuperiorRam said:
Let's beat around the bush both of ya
I can't tell who does it more Don or Weston?
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I have a mystery customer that has a rusty injector he never called about and another vendor who loves to post in threads ripping my products. I have tried to explain the whole reason behind the failed injector, the differences between our nozzles, etc.

What the heck?
 
Big Swole said:
For the record, I love that his thread has helped in some way!! Bringing info that is requested by both Weston and Don! I like both of these guys , it just so happens that I choose to spend my money with Don way before I ever knew who Weston was. Don has been WAY more than acomidating for me and has Always taken care of me as he is now.

So you guys please stop appoligizing for the so called derailing. I really dont mind as long as someone can learn from what happens to me.

The good news is that its better than we thought. I did have a tip split but not break off!! Yay me. We swaped tips that Jeff had here and i stalled in the truck. The truck seems to run fine! So all I need is a new nozzle. But Dons has some new tricks he may do to the next set.

Should I go bigger?!?!? LOL LOL

J/K

once I get the new nozzles and swap them out , I should be in business!!
I hope! We didn't drive it, just cranked it in the lot. Jeff gave it the OK from his hearing and special touch! lol
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I'm releived it turned out to be no more than an injector issue and nuthing major.
Thanks for letting us know.
Billy
 
The newer CR systems are higher pressure than the previous models, yet they have gone to sac type. You disagree Don, why would Bosch do this?
 
Soup Nazi said:
The reason everyone else uses a 8 hole is because thats all they have. The stock Bosch nozzle is 8 holes. There is a 6 hole Bosch nozzle that some guys are using, but it is not that good, IMO. It has issues with it I dont like.

5 holes turned out to be the best design for what we were wanting to do on the performance side. We have used them since May 2004.

No failures between 2004 to 2007. A few in 2008. Multiple failures have happened since late 2008 until now. About the time blocked rails and high pressure pumps came on the scene. Roughly 20 or less total failed nozzles out of 6000 plus pieces produced and sold.
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Thanks for the info Don, I appreciate it

What do you think about this statement made, concerning 5 hole nozzles for 03/04 trucks:

"These other performance nozzles are made with 5 holes to better cope with the higher pressure some guys want to run in their trucks. Fewer larger holes allows you to build nozzles more robust against high pressure which you have to use read below."

"There is a huge trade off here though. 8 holes will give you XXX flow at XXX PSI and will get phenomenal fuel atomization and dispersion. Now to flow that same XXX amount of fuel you're going to need one of two things HUGE holes (read crappy fuel atomization) or you are going to have to run XXX PSI times some multiplier to make up for the loss in flow. You can make up the flow loss by pushing harder. So by pushing harder (higher rail PSI) you put more stress on your pump, lines, rail, connector tubes, and bodies, but you'll regain some of your lost atomization at the expense of durability on all your other parts. "

"The last down side to this is fuel dispersion within the bowl. If you have 8 holes you get one flame every 45 degrees around the fuel bowl. If you cut that number back to 5 you get one flame every 72 degrees and it is proportionally larger (and hotter) than the 8 hole ones. "


I am just concerned about changing down toa 5 hole nozzle design.....my rational is that the 03/04 trucks have a stock 8 hole nozzle for reason

Will your 5 hole nozzle affect the unique 03/04 piston bowl performance any?
 
Big Swole said:
Heck yeah!! Don, hook a brotha up!!!! lol
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I have a permanent fix for you coming up. Stainless bodies, our super tight control chambers, the blueprint service, and a prototype nozzle that is out of the alpha and beta stage. If anyone can break these, you could, but I bet ya wont be able to. Even with added pressure. Bring the pressure! Bring the heat! Bring it on Brotha!!!!!

Get ready to outrun all the goober smokers that show their faces.

Come on! You got the Mahle slugs, the dual pumps, the good programming from Marco, the right cam, and the darn thing is already running. Show the world the Common Rail is the way to go.

I have a few new cam grinds almost ready too. Lets kick some azzzzz

Dont lay down on me now. LOL
 
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C'mon David...this is why I helped you out...I can't have someone else not broke from things like this.

Chris
 
The control chamber is not what you think. It is the part inside the injector often improperly called the "seat"

We have had a new chamber for about a year or so. The 2nd generation part is a bad motha! Lowest leakage ever. Long lasting.
 
Yo Swole !!!!! Good to hear it wasnt a real big issue and you found it early on ... Cant wait to see you throw down :woohoo:
 
Soup Nazi said:
I have a permanent fix for you coming up. Stainless bodies, our super tight control chambers, the blueprint service, and a prototype nozzle that is out of the alpha and beta stage. If anyone can break these, you could, but I bet ya wont be able to. Even with added pressure. Bring the pressure! Bring the heat! Bring it on Brotha!!!!!

Get ready to outrun all the goober smokers that show their faces.

Come on! You got the Mahle slugs, the dual pumps, the good programming from Marco, the right cam, and the darn thing is already running. Show the world the Common Rail is the way to go.

I have a few new cam grinds almost ready too. Lets kick some azzzzz

Dont lay down on me now. LOL
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WOW!! Sweet!!

I got the text and then saw this while I was driving home...The April called before I could text back....

Thank you Don!! I will have them on the way to you sometime tmrw. afternoon or Friday morn.....I didn't pull them back out yet after we tested it...I'll pull them in the AM ..

I'm excited about the new stuff you got going on!!! :thankyou2:
 
BTW, Thanks to everyone that posted in support of me and the Interceptor!!

Instead of quoting everyone, I just wanted to Thank you all!! You guys are awesome!!




When I get to drive it and everything is truly good, I'll post up!!
 
David ......... to answer your question....... YES GO BIGGER!!!

you have the mac daddy pistons and "better" rods........ let those ponies run!
 
jsf350 said:
David ......... to answer your question....... YES GO BIGGER!!!

you have the mac daddy pistons and "better" rods........ let those ponies run!
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We'll have to let Don answer this one I guess... He's got some new stuff....If I could go a bit bigger and keep smoke under control, as well as not worry about using added pressure to make the HP, Well then yes I might as well go bigger!!..

Just not too big....lol
 
Big Swole said:
We'll have to let Don answer this one I guess... He's got some new stuff....If I could go a bit bigger and keep smoke under control, as well as not worry about using added pressure to make the HP, Well then yes I might as well go bigger!!..

Just not too big....lol
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FASTER FASTER FASTER!!!!
 
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