'Zeus PCM' Standalone for CR from Destroked

My truck has been to multiple shops, had tons of injectors, programmers, pressure boxes, power boxes etc. I'll be a demo truck. Let's dyno before and after. You donate the knowledge and the time, I'll donate the truck, buy the zeus or standalone module, pay your way out here and put you up in a nice Casino and we'll get some real world number on how hell it works and how much better the truck runs with all of the different tuning aspects being able to be addressed,,,
 
From Destroked's site said:
We have been overwhelmed with calls and e-mails on this so some of the most popular questions I will answer here.
The unit comes with software. If we did not do that it would not be much different then what is already available.
Think of it as we have built you a piece of hardware, and we have provided you the software to be able to use it.
The tuning is not real difficult. I will put up some screen shots later and discuss some of the tables. A nice feature on this is the manual mode. This is where you can enter in a pulse width, timing, and duty cycle on the pump, and then adjust them real time, and see how the engine reacts. It really gives you a better feel for how to tune.
I said it was not difficult to tune. That does not mean if you have never turned on a computer before, and you have no idea how a commonrail diesel engine works, this will be easy for you. It does take some knowledge of both.
There are max tables that you can set. Rev limit, max rail pressure, boost, etc.
The unit was designed from the ground up for the 5.9 and 6.7 Cummins. That is why it is not cluttered with a lot of extra tables in the software, like a unit which is one size fits all.
We have also been asked how is this better than stacking boxes.
Stacking boxes is in my opinion dangerous. How do you know what timing you are running? You could be setting yourself up to damage your engine. Also do the boxes involved "play well" together. Some do.You are still limited by what the factory ECM is capable of.
The Zeus is not limited. In building it we never wanted to here from the customer "I could have made more power but-". That wont happen.
The last thing is people wanting to see unlimited RPM. The unit has exceeded what the engine can mechanically do. One thing to keep in mind is that Your engine may make peak power at 4200rpm. Well you don't need to spin it to 7500rpm for the fun of it. Pro stock teams are not spinning 10000+ rpm because it is fun. They are doing it because they are making power there. Things like head flow, cam profile, valve size, are all going to effect where your engine makes its power.
I have also been asked if we are running the injectors at 24 volts. This seems somewhat of a silly question to me. Before we ever started, I scoped a stock Cummins motor to see that the injectors were firing at 22 volts. I played with the voltage to see how they were effected. At 12volts they were very sluggish. There was a dramatic slowdown in how fast they open. Above 24 volts there was not a noticeable difference in the speed in which they opened. So to answer the question we are running the injectors at 24v. That is the benefit you have when you build something specific for an application, you can take care of everything inside the box. Had I tried to "convert" something there would have been a lot of "afterthoughts" on it.
One other question was if this was the Drivven unit. I had never heard of this unit until someone asked that question. I had checked out the Bosch, and the BSG units, but although they were very good units, they were complicated and expensive. It looks like the Drivven may fit that category as well. I thought we could do better, and we did.
These were the big questions that we were getting. Additional ones I will answer on here. I will try to keep everyone updated on the progress.
Scott

There you have it straight from Scott. http://www.destroked.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4&sid=2f67bad8202545eec5b97257fc9d9464
 
Can we tune the transmission at all with this standalone? What mph it shifts gears? I know Suncoast offers a valvebody built by PCS but it would be great to control it through this PCM.
 
The zeus does not control the trans. You still need the valvebody and pcs controller.
 
Well since my motor is apart do i cut valve reliefs in the pistons for a huge cam and go to 14mm studs top and bottom. Have to get ready for this ecm...!
 
***This is all purely speculation***
on my part, but I would imagine for guages (factory 03 and up dodge) your going to have to run a pcs display.

It sounds like it will transmit CAN messages so in theory if you decoded the stock messages for the guages and programmed them into the zeus you would be good to go, it would be a bit of a pain decoding the factory messages but totally plausible.

However the zeus CAN messages are most likely encoded at machine level and not necessarily something the end user can change, maybe not.

For this to work it would also have to transmit J1850 for the factory gauges 03-05.

Another theory might be to use a magic box or gateway between the zeus and the factory gauges that would accept the zeus CAN messages and convert them to factory CAN or J1850 then transmit to the factory guages.



The combo of the zeus and pcs trans controller and pcs display would be pretty sweet.

Sure hoping they smooth out the BUS issues that will arise from totally removing the factory PCM.
 
One thing I have wondered about is how does the ECM compensate for larger injector holes? Do you have to know the % larger your holes are to add that percent to the amount of fuel the ECM says is getting injected?
 
One thing I have wondered about is how does the ECM compensate for larger injector holes? Do you have to know the % larger your holes are to add that percent to the amount of fuel the ECM says is getting injected?

you reduce pulse width and increase pressure... go read up on some Duramax forums about EFI Live you will be able to understand the concept more easily.
 
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Has there been a price released yet for this? and a timetable as to when it will be available?
 
And what were the other ones going for? One thing, I kinda glossed over this, will this ecm do datalogging?
 
I cant wait til spring, destroked standalone, volkers standalone, and EFI live will be out there for the cr dodges!!!!
 
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