Calling Chris Watson

awww shut ur mouth....you got a phone call afterward to congrat but to voicemail....I figured you had you hands full with everyone...didn't need me buggin ya! Ill call ya later man
 
what was the henderance to the CR system for these builds???? was it the electronics or physical capabilities or combination of the two???
 
duramaxn said:
This is my 2cents...if there is anyone gonna figure out the HEUI....this is your man! Can't wait to see what shes got for ya! Oh I heard that I walked right past you last weekened and didn't know you were there at the GMS booth...sorry bout that!
Click to expand...

Eh? You didn't walk by me....
 
duramaxn said:
This stuff literally cracks me up that the bowties are seeming upset that we kicked the CR to the curb but the cummins crowd is welcoming it. If we didn't think that this setup is going to lethal....we wouldn't be spending every waking hour of everydays free time making this thing happen. Me and Chris are blessed to be surounded by some of the best in the sport such as Cory, Jeremy Straley, Eric Stacey, Kyle Michael...and the list goes on....and to beat it all....we all live within 1.5 hours and 4 of them live within 20 minutes of each other. This is Mod truck central for the country and the expections are very high. We all are here to win and have an edge on the next guy. If we wanted to build two new truck and make them both cummins....what in the hell is that getting us. Everyone on this forum know that the duramax is the next big player and it is here to stay.
Click to expand...

I appreciate what you are doing, and I am sure it will be good. Respectfully though, I disagree. IMO the whole Duramax (TM), power, reputation, starting capability, was based on the commonrail. The common rail made the engine IMO. That engine brought on the whole diesel revolution. I don't care what anyone says, but diesels were a joke before the duramax. When you take away the commonrail it isn't a duramax it's a glorified V8 diesel (think 6.5)with a glorified Ppump. IMO the cummins guys have long proved that you can slap a Ppump on it and make hp. Heck look at the mechanical powerstroke. Who cares lottie dah. It won't happen today or tomarrow, but the commonrail is the future of all hp.

The ceiling was never the cummins, the cummins was the name plate infront of a pump. IMO the duramax is the name in front of the commonrail system. It was here first. The duramax is the commonrail. A commonrail is a duramax. (not exclusively anymore) I think that is why people (???) (me?) don't appreciate the mechanical duramax. I am not trying to disrespect what you guys have done, or are doing. Rather, I am trying to explain the logic behind the thought process.

I also appreciate the heui powerstokes that run good. That is the hardest thing to do IMO. I would rather :bang than work with that system, but to see one run, I like it.

I am a GM guy through and through but a mechanical duramax doesn't turn my crank. Different strokes for different folks.
 
duramaximizer said:
I appreciate what you are doing, and I am sure it will be good. Respectfully though, I disagree. IMO the whole Duramax (TM), power, reputation, starting capability, was based on the commonrail. The common rail made the engine IMO. That engine brought on the whole diesel revolution. I don't care what anyone says, but diesels were a joke before the duramax. When you take away the commonrail it isn't a duramax it's a glorified V8 diesel (think 6.5)with a glorified Ppump. IMO the cummins guys have long proved that you can slap a Ppump on it and make hp. Heck look at the mechanical powerstroke. Who cares lottie dah. It won't happen today or tomarrow, but the commonrail is the future of all hp.

The ceiling was never the cummins, the cummins was the name plate infront of a pump. IMO the duramax is the name in front of the commonrail system. It was here first. The duramax is the commonrail. A commonrail is a duramax. (not exclusively anymore) I think that is why people (???) (me?) don't appreciate the mechanical duramax. I am not trying to disrespect what you guys have done, or are doing. Rather, I am trying to explain the logic behind the thought process.

I also appreciate the heui powerstokes that run good. That is the hardest thing to do IMO. I would rather :bang than work with that system, but to see one run, I like it.

I am a GM guy through and through but a mechanical duramax doesn't turn my crank. Different strokes for different folks.
Click to expand...

x2 reguardless of that it is impressive non the less.:Cheer:
 
kyle03d said:
I would like to argue with this statement Mr. Hotrod Tractor........why switch to fully mechanical when you could have HEUI?:shake:
Click to expand...

As usual Kyle your right! HEUI will rock your world! I got a HEUI engine that will fit in the frame rails of your new rag if ya want to see what real power is like.:poke:
 
duramaximizer said:
I appreciate what you are doing, and I am sure it will be good. Respectfully though, I disagree. IMO the whole Duramax (TM), power, reputation, starting capability, was based on the commonrail. The common rail made the engine IMO. That engine brought on the whole diesel revolution. I don't care what anyone says, but diesels were a joke before the duramax. When you take away the commonrail it isn't a duramax it's a glorified V8 diesel (think 6.5)with a glorified Ppump. IMO the cummins guys have long proved that you can slap a Ppump on it and make hp. Heck look at the mechanical powerstroke. Who cares lottie dah. It won't happen today or tomarrow, but the commonrail is the future of all hp.

The ceiling was never the cummins, the cummins was the name plate infront of a pump. IMO the duramax is the name in front of the commonrail system. It was here first. The duramax is the commonrail. A commonrail is a duramax. (not exclusively anymore) I think that is why people (???) (me?) don't appreciate the mechanical duramax. I am not trying to disrespect what you guys have done, or are doing. Rather, I am trying to explain the logic behind the thought process.

I also appreciate the heui powerstokes that run good. That is the hardest thing to do IMO. I would rather :bang than work with that system, but to see one run, I like it.

I am a GM guy through and through but a mechanical duramax doesn't turn my crank. Different strokes for different folks.
Click to expand...


Then please with all due respect, build your own with a commonrail and come play.... or a non mechanical injected duramax, and see how ya stack up. not trying to be rude here but come on, there doing what they have to do to win, money or time was not a factor for them, there going the way with the big hp to play at the top level. to stay with an electronic injection system would be a step back.... but were all entitled to our own opinion but to say you dont appreciate the mechanical d-max is pretty harsh.... but im sure there engine is ancient compared to commonrail technology.
 
duramaximizer said:
I appreciate what you are doing, and I am sure it will be good. Respectfully though, I disagree. IMO the whole Duramax (TM), power, reputation, starting capability, was based on the commonrail. The common rail made the engine IMO. That engine brought on the whole diesel revolution. I don't care what anyone says, but diesels were a joke before the duramax. When you take away the commonrail it isn't a duramax it's a glorified V8 diesel (think 6.5)with a glorified Ppump. IMO the cummins guys have long proved that you can slap a Ppump on it and make hp. Heck look at the mechanical powerstroke. Who cares lottie dah. It won't happen today or tomarrow, but the commonrail is the future of all hp.

The ceiling was never the cummins, the cummins was the name plate infront of a pump. IMO the duramax is the name in front of the commonrail system. It was here first. The duramax is the commonrail. A commonrail is a duramax. (not exclusively anymore) I think that is why people (???) (me?) don't appreciate the mechanical duramax. I am not trying to disrespect what you guys have done, or are doing. Rather, I am trying to explain the logic behind the thought process.

I also appreciate the heui powerstokes that run good. That is the hardest thing to do IMO. I would rather :bang than work with that system, but to see one run, I like it.

I am a GM guy through and through but a mechanical duramax doesn't turn my crank. Different strokes for different folks.
Click to expand...

I think this guy is taking dumbass pills,the common rail system has been on semi's for years, and years, the duramax had nothing to do with it. Yes they were the first one in a pickup but come on when its already proven anybody can downsize it and put it on a pickyup. :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
 
duramaximizer said:
I appreciate what you are doing, and I am sure it will be good. Respectfully though, I disagree. IMO the whole Duramax (TM), power, reputation, starting capability, was based on the commonrail. The common rail made the engine IMO. That engine brought on the whole diesel revolution. I don't care what anyone says, but diesels were a joke before the duramax. When you take away the commonrail it isn't a duramax it's a glorified V8 diesel (think 6.5)with a glorified Ppump. IMO the cummins guys have long proved that you can slap a Ppump on it and make hp. Heck look at the mechanical powerstroke. Who cares lottie dah. It won't happen today or tomarrow, but the commonrail is the future of all hp.

The ceiling was never the cummins, the cummins was the name plate infront of a pump. IMO the duramax is the name in front of the commonrail system. It was here first. The duramax is the commonrail. A commonrail is a duramax. (not exclusively anymore) I think that is why people (???) (me?) don't appreciate the mechanical duramax. I am not trying to disrespect what you guys have done, or are doing. Rather, I am trying to explain the logic behind the thought process.

I also appreciate the heui powerstokes that run good. That is the hardest thing to do IMO. I would rather :bang than work with that system, but to see one run, I like it.

I am a GM guy through and through but a mechanical duramax doesn't turn my crank. Different strokes for different folks.
Click to expand...


Would you rather have a "DURAMAX (tm)" with a mechanical pump run and compete/win against with the top trucks or have a common rail truck go out there and be 500HP short and make Chevys look bad?

I'd say use what works with todays mechanical technology and compete/win with a "DURAMAX (tm)".
 
It will be great to see this come together, but if your gonna put a mechanical system on it, and it be a V8 wouldn't the 7.3 be the route to go, or can you get more cubes out of the 6.6? Are the heads that much better on the Dmax? Seems to me v8 to v8 I would go with the powerstroke. I am betting Double OT will be out this year with even more HP than last year.
 
Twinturbo97 said:
I think this guy is taking dumbass pills,the common rail system has been on semi's for years, and years, the duramax had nothing to do with it. Yes they were the first one in a pickup but come on when its already proven anybody can downsize it and put it on a pickyup. :hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
Click to expand...

I completely agree. These guys are building some badass trucks and all the GM crowd can do is whine about the injection, who cares!! It's still a DMAX! That's why GM called it the Duramax ENGINE, not an ISUZU engine with dmax injection. Quit crying unless you are gonna come out and get your ass handed to you by one of these trucks when you show up with your true Duramax (TM) <-----BTW what the hell is that about?
 
Have you ever noticed that the people who wanna argue and redefine everything and just generally stir up chit, are generally the bench-warmer types?
 
zstroken said:
I watched him but 20' on haisley in texas.
Click to expand...

Oh I know its plenty stout and Ive seen him put the hurt on several mod trucks before as well, but seems like the last few times Ive seen him pull he's had a terrible time with it bouncing and hoppin.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top