EFILive Beta First Impressions

Marco,

You make some valid points, but don't miss the boat with EFI Live. You can use it as a tool to make your product better.
 
Marco,

You know those of us who are true Smarty people...have got mad love for you and your product!!!

Smarty will always be competitive, I'll never doubt that!!!
 
I don't know to much but i'll have to agree with marco, I'm not a puller or a racer i just like to have a sweet daily driver and maybe get on the dyno here and there and the closest dyno is 3 hours away so how am i able to perfectly tune my truck without traveling far and every time you throw another turbo on your truck or different injectors in your truck and so on your going to have to tune your truck again, so it's a lot easier for me to just program a different tune in my truck and be done.
 
Bobo,
Miss the boat?
I'm not so sure how I should understand what you're saying.
What makes you think that I can't do what EFI can with what we developed in house?

Marco
 
Marco, have you looked into what has happened in the Duramax market in the last 4 years? You have a great product and at the top of the CR game, but so did some others in the Dmax market.

Everyday people are tuning their own trucks. 90% of the top Duramax competitors in Sled Pulling, Drag Racing, and Dyno competition are being tuned using EFI.

People like control and knowledge on what their engines are doing. This works from below stock HP (valet tunes), stock trucks looking for economy and drivaibilty, up to full bore built comp. engines. Across that wide spectrum efi can be fine tuned to do them all perfectly.

Data Logging and tuning more than one truck is desirable also.
 
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If I may answer this one quote in your post Marco

"Data log : nice! Really? What about the RP sensr that's slow to respond and maxes out at 27K? What data are you logging from them?"

We use the desired rail pressure figures from the ecm vs the actual rail pressure figures the injectors are seeing during a logging run to see how much rail pressure is dropping. From this knowledge we can make needed adjustments for more power, better atomization, and cleaner burn. Do we have all the answers yet, no, not by a long shot but EFI is helping us gather the needed tools.

This is just one example of one parameter and how I use data logging to adjust tuning for each applications. These data logs can be sent via email and watched by someone across the country.
 
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Marco said:
Bobo,
Miss the boat?
I'm not so sure how I should understand what you're saying.
What makes you think that I can't do what EFI can with what we developed in house?

Marco
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Because if you had done all that and a bag of chips, there would be nobody that wanted an EFI Live tuned truck. Have you fixed the "throttle hang"?


Before you think I'm starting a war, just remember this. I don't care what you do. I don't care how you do it. This goes for everyone out there. I only control the things I do and how I do it. That's all I care about. Right now the task at hand is making EFI Live the best tool possible. We are doing that.
 
My only question for marco is. If you can do the tuneing in house why haven't you tryd to do your own version of efi live or doin custom tunes like these guys do? Iam not tryin to start a war. Iam just ready to be able to tune or have my truck tuned right and now that its runnin 28* of timeing not timeing 2. And also the throttle hangin scares the hell out of me and I also think there's a lot left on the table for these trucks just like the SSR that's bn beta tested. Its made 80-100 more than tnt r. I think efi live will go above and beyond that once it comes out.
 
I agree with smoke machine. timing of x degrees at x rpm with x rail pressure and x pulsewidth is a hell of a lot better than #2 or #3. Marco, we all may not be as idiotic as you think we are. If given adequate instructions I am sure I can figure EFI live out, maybe with some mishaps, that's OK, I have managed pretty well in life from an educational standpoint.

The kind of people utilizing EFI live won't be 16 year old Billy Bob behind the local high school with a stock CR without a muffler and a "chip". The market will be individuals, investing 20- 30K in a performance application. Jay
 
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ssr will be able to do all of these things wont it pulse width rp, timing or are they all just gonna be numbers like timing 1= 20 degrees of timing or 2 = 18 degrees?
 
Is the SSR going to be released, Or is it still in beta testing? What is the SSr going to be able to do over the TNT-R?
 
With a Dyno, SSR will be great to tune with...

But just like EFI, it's for those who Really can spend the time / money to get the most out of their setup!

Until final version is released, I can't tell ya if you'll be able to know the actual numbers from the table...
 
i didnt post to start a ssr discusion. i was just asking marco why he hasnt tried to help trucks at the high hp level with custom tunes and stuff.
 
I've made some unfair comparisons of the smarty to a stand alone, however after running and tuning one to my combination of parts it became painfully obvious how much better the tune could be.

And on the data logging......you have to be kidding.

On the $250 a tune comment, can't say I've had any dealings with efi or the tuners but I imagine these guys develop a data base of truck/mods ect and leverage their past tunes going forward.

Without a doubt what the efi group has shown so far is a giant leap for Cummins compared to what has been available.
 
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smoke machine said:
i didnt post to start a ssr discusion. i was just asking marco why he hasnt tried to help trucks at the high hp level with custom tunes and stuff.
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This is COMPD

Derail is What we do here!!!:evil


Just so happens, you're taking the blame on this one! LOL
 
:nail: oh well i just had to ask. iam exited about efi live. ive been running smarty from day one but want to know more about what the truck is doing plus the 07 defuel problem realy pisses me off so hopefully efi will fix it*bdh*
 
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