What is NHRDA's future for Pro Street?

DIESEL_POWER said:
you limit the few or the rest will have to mortgage there house to keep up!!!

The point of drag racing is equal equipment and good drivers going at it!
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I whole heartily disagree. If they placed limits on cars back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's etc. where would the innovation of drag racing gone. No where.

Sounds like a socialistic idea. Limit the fast/innovative guys so the masses can compete and feel like they are fast and innovative.

I like Ken's idea. Set PS to a 8.50 index until many are hitting that ET. This will not change anything at all currently. Down the road, there may be a few that are on the index and will make it interesting.
 
DIESEL_POWER said:
you limit the few or the rest will have to mortgage there house to keep up!!!

class parity is a good thing, it brings competition

All you'd have to do is limit boost PSI with a boost controller just like NHRA does...that would be a great start. i bet if 55 psi was the cap. ET's and MPH would come much closer together.

The point of drag racing is equal equipment and good drivers going at it!

Because there is a very good chance that NHRA will look at the times, weight and current certs and make everyone get a new cage with strictor saftey rules costing several thousdands..... The cheaper way, safer way, and more competitive way is to limit the power some.
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That's the point of stock car racing NOT drag racing!!! Drag racing has always been bring the fastest thing you can build and hope it is enough to beat the guy in the other lane!!! If you want a pure driver's class you need to go Bracket racing!!!
 
IdahoRob said:
I whole heartily disagree. If they placed limits on cars back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's etc. where would the innovation of drag racing gone. No where.

Sounds like a socialistic idea. Limit the fast/innovative guys so the masses can compete and feel like they are fast and innovative.

I like Ken's idea. Set PS to a 8.50 index until many are hitting that ET. This will not change anything at all currently. Down the road, there may be a few that are on the index and will make it interesting.
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You gotta look at the big picture here,

You can innovate easily when restricted...Look at nascar, current Promod, pro stock, top fuel....Need i go further??

Im not saying slam the class with 5657876 new restrictions, just one simple answer i gave will still alow innovation and class parity, If some "think" that no rules gives better innovation then they should move up cause they obviosly got more Moneym than brains!!

So your saying hurray for the fast guy and screw the slower, non funded guys...WOW rob didnt know you would go there.

Remember this is for the future of the SPORT, not the few fast guys... and before long if something isent done the guys who make the field, may be slower, but make the class, once there shut out and dont have a ruling n there favor the class is done!
 
IdahoRob said:
I whole heartily disagree. If they placed limits on cars back in the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's etc. where would the innovation of drag racing gone. No where.

Sounds like a socialistic idea. Limit the fast/innovative guys so the masses can compete and feel like they are fast and innovative.

I like Ken's idea. Set PS to a 8.50 index until many are hitting that ET. This will not change anything at all currently. Down the road, there may be a few that are on the index and will make it interesting.
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I'm with you Rob on not limiting the engines or adding weight, but I do feel that the safety needs to be improved to help make sure we keep the drivers safe!!!
 
Chris Tobin said:
That's the point of stock car racing NOT drag racing!!! Drag racing has always been bring the fastest thing you can build and hope it is enough to beat the guy in the other lane!!! If you want a pure driver's class you need to go Bracket racing!!!
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Do you race at all??


If you do then you would realize that Almost EVERY PRO class in NHRA and IHRA have rules and many engine and chassis restrictions.......WAYYYYY More than anything talked about in this thread.

Bracket raceing even has many restrictions

So does heads up.
 
Dont get me wrong im all about the "fastest in the universe" title and all that, but it dont help the rest of the class cause there is no limitaions put in place. in other words its just a money race.....Thats not what our sport needs.

Just like i dont like that 9.5-13 second trucks are allowed in Pro stock class... should be able to qualify at a 8.50 or faster to enter..prolly lower.

Just looks stupid
 
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DIESEL_POWER said:
Do you race at all??


If you do then you would realize that Almost EVERY PRO class in NHRA and IHRA have rules and many engine and chassis restrictions.......WAYYYYY More than anything talked about in this thread.

Bracket raceing even has many restrictions

So does heads up.
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Yes, but not at the levels we are talking about here... And yes there are rules, and I'm not saying to go without rules... But I am saying to make the trucks safe enough to go the speeds that they are capable of going. Don't add weight or limit boost to slow them down so that more guys can be competitive in the class.
 
In reality, once a truck runs an 8.49, the track, NHRDA and NHRA should simply say, "Your truck is not certified to run that number, slow it down or be removed from competition."

Those two or three....or one...racer will have to index themselves, or step up in class or not run. Then I assume they would learn how to make the truck live for round after round at that pace. And wait for the competition to catch up while they win EVERY race.

Then the industry would have to worry about where to go from there.
 
SHughes said:
In reality, once a truck runs an 8.49, the track, NHRDA and NHRA should simply say, "Your truck is not certified to run that number, slow it down or be removed from competition."

Those two or three....or one...racer will have to index themselves, or step up in class or not run. Then I assume they would learn how to make the truck live for round after round at that pace. And wait for the competition to catch up while they win EVERY race.

Then the industry would have to worry about where to go from there.
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:rockwoot:
 
Roy's 4150lb, and nobody says much about him.....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOQJDHedZaw"]Monte Carlo Drag week 2012 - YouTube[/ame]
 
NHRA will make exceptions on a case by case senario, which is the case for most of the fast drag week cars. Im not sure what they would say when you bring a whole class of trucks to them.

Although it will be a good problem to have, how far out is that 8.50 mark anyways? Yeah, they have picked up from 10's to 9's rather quick and now closer to that 8.50 mark....but the faster you go the harder it gets.

Id bet that this "problem" wont be a problem for a couple more years.
 
I just can't see getting into engine restrictions like limiting the size of NOS jets or turbo size or boost. Realistically how many guys are really going to challenge 8.50? Maybe 3 or 4 and they aren't there yet. And now many can do it more than once or twice without breaking something?? I think we are discussing a non problem. As I said cap it at 8.50 and when you have a few guys lifting or detuning to keep from breaking out then deal with it.
 
This is starting to get stressful. Lets not make this confusing or overly restrictive. I just want to see you all be safe and competitive. Then possible go toe to toe with the NHRA in one or two events.
 
Rustin said:
This is starting to get stressful. Lets not make this confusing or overly restrictive. I just want to see you all be safe and competitive. Then possible go toe to toe with the NHRA in one or two events.
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I'll second that!!!:woohoo:
 
Once someone runs an 8.50, they should figure out how to make is survive rounds, then do it on a 10.5" tire and go to the YB Nationals.
 
SHughes said:
In reality, once a truck runs an 8.49, the track, NHRDA and NHRA should simply say, "Your truck is not certified to run that number, slow it down or be removed from competition."

Those two or three....or one...racer will have to index themselves, or step up in class or not run. Then I assume they would learn how to make the truck live for round after round at that pace. And wait for the competition to catch up while they win EVERY race.

Then the industry would have to worry about where to go from there.
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If the guys with the fast dinosaurs stepped up in class, Wade wouldn't be fast anymore! Wade a minuet, that Waden't be fair! Wade it?
 
I think having different classes might help ....

Single turbo both 4x and 2wd

Twin turbo 4x & 2wd

Unlimited caped at 8.50
Myabe do some tire size limitations along with it to keep it more competitive, it wont kill anyone to have to run harder and or drive better would it ?

Dont get me wrong we all want to win, but at what cost ? IF in fact i were to crash I would certainly hope I would be able to go home to the wife and kids .... I dont think there should be any exceptions just because someone dosent wanna shell it out for a "Safe" truck .... at any weight ..IMHO of course
 
DIESEL_POWER said:
you limit the few or the rest will have to mortgage there house to keep up!!!

class parity is a good thing, it brings competition

All you'd have to do is limit boost PSI with a boost controller just like NHRA does...that would be a great start.i bet if 55 psi was the cap.ET's and MPH would come much closer together.

The point of drag racing is equal equipment and good drivers going at it!

Because there is a very good chance that NHRA will look at the times, weight and current certs and make everyone get a new cage with strictor saftey rules costing several thousdands..... The cheaper way, safer way, and more competitive way is to limit the power some.
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I have left the line at 65 psi before so thats not gunna happen lmao.

Silly nitrious boy boost is a all fuel guys best friend. :snoop::lolly:
 
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