PPE HOT will be my next atempt to reach

chrleb1 said:
LOL... it worked for me. Also Marco's tweaking. Just injectors and pumps was a huge difference in my truck. When i went from Flux 5s to Flux 7.5s, we picked up a lot of power. After that, i was having some air problems (not enough out of the big one and too much out of the small one).
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It worked so good, if I'm not mistaken trashed a crank.....don't think there's to many folks done that.....:poke:

Must have that unit back to gether by now....ready for some more of Marco's magic??
 
that crank is making me cranky... LOL we are ready to finish the project
 
JasonCzerak said:
So if your turbo's light earlier, I bet that's due to the low timing right? However, not enough timing at the upper rpm. I've noticed when I run timing 3 my single lights a little faster, but falls off earlier. Be nice to get a timing setting of 2.5. a combo of the two...;-)

Marco/Bob. Not sure if you thought of this or there's a programmatic reason for not, but could you folks take the "adjust-ability" one step further. In blocks of 500rpm or so, allow us to set timing/pressure/duration based on throttle throttle input? Need less fuel and timing under 2000rpm, But need more way above that ;-) kinda thing.
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It is about the timing curve. It amazes me you Dodge guys are able to what you do. You are flying so blind it is not funny. No idea what timing and fueling where. I guess having EFILive and a Dmax spoils me.

What I have noticed is how different injectors act. Some are far more freindly to timing than others. I like the way the injectors that are more finicky to timing run. They seem to atomize better that is what makes them finicky IMHO.

I will use my truck as an example on the how the timing a can effect turbo spool up. 4* less of timing made all most 500rpms difference in the spooling of my charger. You need a curve that starts low enough to make some heat but not to much. Same with fuel. To much hurts as much as to little. Then once the boost starts to climb you can ramp in the fuel and timing, but again you need to have a good balance of both thru the whole band. Man does EFILive rock.:rockwoot:
 
I switched from SMarty to PPE Hot and love it. I have an 03CR and all tuning was done from drivers seat as was testing. The PPE seemed to have a lot better pull, and the 4000+rpm is true. Also with my Smarty I had a lot of popping when under a load no matter what the setting which caused the truck to stutter and be less effective. With the PPE everything is smooth and runs nice. I was gonna drop some money for a new CP3 because I thought it was shot, but im glad I tried this swap first. It removed the popping and even fit right back into my tuner stack
 
been there with big sticks, not the answer on 600 series. Marco will get more out of the 325 engines but at this time he has a full plate completing Ericks 305 engine.

Someone mentioned heat getting the chargers rolling, and that is exactly what is happening...retarding the timing low in the rpm builds heat and helps spool. PPE has done this as my chargers are on top quick..this in turn helps with drivabilty on the street.
 
JOHNBOY said:
It is about the timing curve. It amazes me you Dodge guys are able to what you do. You are flying so blind it is not funny. No idea what timing and fueling where. I guess having EFILive and a Dmax spoils me.

What I have noticed is how different injectors act. Some are far more freindly to timing than others. I like the way the injectors that are more finicky to timing run. They seem to atomize better that is what makes them finicky IMHO.

I will use my truck as an example on the how the timing a can effect turbo spool up. 4* less of timing made all most 500rpms difference in the spooling of my charger. You need a curve that starts low enough to make some heat but not to much. Same with fuel. To much hurts as much as to little. Then once the boost starts to climb you can ramp in the fuel and timing, but again you need to have a good balance of both thru the whole band. Man does EFILive rock.:rockwoot:
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You suck!!!
 
Here's my $.02 on timing based on different dyno and street runs.

No power difference between the least timing and the most timing on my truck. none.
haven't played with the timing on the new setup, testing was on single turbo, single pump, flux 2's.

Most will say that running timing will reduce EGT's. WOT runs on the street on SW9 were 100* hotter than SW8. Runs were made back to back with a few minutes to download the different programs.


-jp
 
I have been running the PPE hot+2 low timing for a year. I got it last year because I wanted something to run the extra rpms. What I have noticed is it is a great running tune very smooth and lites the charger good. I got the low timing version so I could run nitrous with it. With the nitrous it is like kicking in the after burners it sets you back in the seat with just a little shot. Last year when I was racing in Bowling Green running Quick Diesel I was on and off the throttle allot trying not to break out. the guys watching said they could see the rear bumper drop every time I got back in the throttle. I am just running a 66 charger and probably don't have enough air to make it perform like it is capable of on just fuel but I know there is allot there. I have never had it on a dyno so I am interested to see what it will make. I have never tried the smarty so I can't give a comparison on that.
 
LOL @ Bob. Believe me, I want to see that crank back in my shop also. As soon as it's done, it'll be sweet though. I got my big turbo back... it's just sitting on the bench..... it looks sad just sitting there. That big s.o.b. is going to be sooo much faster, as it wasn't already. :evil

This whole breaking cranks thing has been such a bummer though. It really makes you not want to build another crazy motor and watch the stock parts blow apart. At least we won't have the TST issues again. Look, we lost 200 hp.... oh never mind, it came right back in a split second.
 
chrleb1 said:
LOL @ Bob. Believe me, I want to see that crank back in my shop also. As soon as it's done, it'll be sweet though. I got my big turbo back... it's just sitting on the bench..... it looks sad just sitting there. That big s.o.b. is going to be sooo much faster, as it wasn't already. :evil

This whole breaking cranks thing has been such a bummer though. It really makes you not want to build another crazy motor and watch the stock parts blow apart. At least we won't have the TST issues again. Look, we lost 200 hp.... oh never mind, it came right back in a split second.
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lol that trash can turbo looked like a deformed trashcan with that small housing on it now , should really rock now. i mean your setup spooled crazy fast and now its going to be even faster, cant wait to see what its gonna do now.:rockwoot:
 
It's close to a grand to get the PPE HOT.. if it wasn't so much, I'd give it a try as well.

I still wanna wait until htt has this gate issue fixed for sure first.
 
The PPE hot is cool,, but trust me, it isnt as cool as the smarty, on my truck it was definately better with the smarty. 3 tenths worth better. The only thing I miss about the PPE is the idle, that was so cool..

Now on my chevy, I wish I had a ppe on there
 
morkable said:
The PPE hot is cool,, but trust me, it isnt as cool as the smarty, on my truck it was definately better with the smarty. 3 tenths worth better. The only thing I miss about the PPE is the idle, that was so cool..

Now on my chevy, I wish I had a ppe on there
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What year you have Kev?
 
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